Twilight Hue
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I haven't heard of any barrels actually melting down lol. but it does do quite extensive damage to the rifling necessitating barrel changes after prolonged fire.
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SCOTUS Overturns Bump Stock Ban
- Thread starter Wandering Monk
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Two questions.
If you pull the trigger and hold it for 15 seconds on a factory semi-automatic rifle how many shots fire?
If you pull the trigger and hold it for 15 seconds on the same gun modified with a bump stock will the gun fire the same number of rounds?
Pogo
Well-Known Member
I can do the math, that is not the point, without the modification, you can't fire anywhere near 13 rounds per second even if the mechanism can in the real world. The proscription of the law was to keep weapons with this fire rate out of non-military hands.
There are many aftermarket clips that hold many dozens of rounds.
Probably not a big concern for someone shooting up a school. Or concert. Or parade. Or sports event.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
Does the nurse hold her finger on your wrist for a whole minute to tell you your heart rate in beats per minute?
McBell
Unbound
one.
it will still only fire one round per trigger pull.
The bump stock will bump your finger forward, resetting the trigger so that you do not have to let off pressure before pulling the trigger again.
So it basically assists you in pulling the trigger faster.
So yes, it will increase the fire rate.
McBell
Unbound
Firing 400 rounds from an AR-15 in one minute will create enough heat to melt the barrel.
By melt the barrel, I mean the heat created will soften the barrel to the point of being soft enough to stop a round from going through it.
Then you will have 400 round a minute piling up in the barrel.
What do you think will happen at that point?
Pogo
Well-Known Member
We are playing silly buggers with the definition of hold. Is it relative to the trigger or the finger stop on the bump stock.
Much of the progress in this century has been SCOTUS interpreting the spirit of the enlightenment era founders.
Reminds me of my HS history teacher who said in Berkeley that he was a conservative by which he meant an 18th century liberal.
This doesn’t answer the questions.
Yes, it’s the bump stop that pulls the hand and finger, and the finger is held with constant pressure, which fore’s automatically until pressure is lifted.
Soandso
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The topic of bump stocks came up in my friend group in discord and someone posted this video. I thought it was interesting
Not sure how I feel about them, personally. Seems like a cool toy, but I feel like after using a bump stock at the shooting range a couple times I'd get bored and just switch back to a more stable stock. I care more about bullet groupings than watching my money evaporate in seconds with how expensive ammunition is
Not sure how I feel about them, personally. Seems like a cool toy, but I feel like after using a bump stock at the shooting range a couple times I'd get bored and just switch back to a more stable stock. I care more about bullet groupings than watching my money evaporate in seconds with how expensive ammunition is
McBell
Unbound
That a bump stock makes a semi-automatic as effective (or ineffective depending on the PoV) as an automatic is not in dispute.
The fact still remains that a semi-automatic has to have the trigger reset between shots fired.
An automatic does not.
that is the difference between the two.
Now if you are merely gong to continue with the same defeated argument, i am out.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Who needs that sort of fire power to begin with? Plus you are just talking about one type of rifle.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
Or the gun will compress pad on the stock and your finger will remain stationary and the trigger will then trip the firing mechanism on it's return. So it is not a tr
The bump stock works when the shooter holds the pistol grip with one hand and the barrel of the gun with the other. A support step holds a person's finger in place when the gun is fired. A spring mechanism in a bump stock causes the rifle to bounce forward with every shot.
Either way the ruling is in contravention of the spirit of the law that was passed.
Pogo
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Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I sincerely doubt if you can match the speed that a bump stock can give. And you miss the point, even if you can o that the bump stock makes it so that almost anyone can fire a rifle at speeds that are at least at old "Tommy Gun" levels. They may not be as fast as a modern day automatic rifle but they are more than fast enough.
It really does not appear to do what you claim at all. I have never seen anyone use it for that purpose. I have only seen it used to make a rifle close to being "automatic".
Misleading. The shooter isn’t pulling the trigger more than once. The mechanism moves the hand unnaturally.
Wandering Monk
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I watched another video where they measured the time it took to empty a 40 round magazine using a bump stock. The cyclic rate of fire on the first clip was 864 per minute. The second clip was 750 per minute.
This is the same rate of fire as a full auto M16.
The M16 rifle has a rate of fire of 700–950 rounds per minute when firing fully automatic. It uses 5.56-mm (.223-caliber) ammunition and has a muzzle velocity of over 900 meters per second.
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Clizby Wampuscat
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Sure, but it does help a human fire the weapon faster, correct?