Seeing That Women Can Go Topless Now Do You Suppose A Lot More Rapes Will Happen?

[Alceste]

Or they could just pay for sex instead and save the prison time. I believe more rapes will happen though. I hope they don't though. If that statement made sense...

No, there are a number of reasons this will not happen.

1. Rape is not a crime of sex, but a crime of domination and power. Rapists are not looking for the sexiest victim, but one they can easily overpower and dominate.

2. Even if rape was the result of being turned on (which it isn't) boobs just aren't all that sexy. When they're not propped up in some kind of harness, they're saggy, asymmetrical and weird looking. Observe:

3. Human predators in general are seeking easy prey - people who look unlikely to be able to defend themselves. A woman with her top off in a culture that finds that daring is signalling that she is confident and independent - therefore she doesn't look like an easy victim.

4. Most rape victims are attacked by their own partners, families, friends or acquaintances. Whether or not they are topless is completely inconsequential. What matters is that the abuser seeks to dominate the abused.

 

[Alceste]

Or they could just pay for sex instead and save the prison time. I believe more rapes will happen though. I hope they don't though. If that statement made sense...

By the way, I can't believe you've bounced back to the false dichotomy of raping someone vs. paying for sex already, after all we've been through. HAVE A WANK for the love of God.

 

[ignition]

but one they can easily overpower and dominate.

overpower and dominate to do what? To have sex...you can dominate someone without having sex with them you know. Sexual assaults in the work place for example happen usually because of sexual attraction I would have thought, why would you bang someone who you thought is ugly and won't be satisfying at least mentally to strip them and take them?

 

[DallasApple]

And on topic no I don't think any rise in rape will actually happen. Th

Maybe in 100 years when toplesness (boobs) aren't something you only get to see in private or in porn.

I mean I'm a woman.And I would probably be very distratcted and take a while to adjust if topplesness was the norm". Ya know? I imagine if I was driving down the road and saw a woman with DD jogging I might get in a wreck.

So I can see the (some of them) men thinking its a free for all grope rape fest .Shes already asking for it if she shows too much cleavage and has on a short skirt.Especially if she is drinking.

 

[DallasApple]

2. Even if rape was the result of being turned on (which it isn't) boobs just aren't all that sexy. When they're not propped up in some kind of harness, they're saggy, asymmetrical and weird looking. Observe:

But she doesn't have a boob job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[DallasApple]

Rape is also about "entitlement" Alceste. Not just domination and power.I would be worried about the entitlement aspect.

 

[DallasApple]

No, there are a number of reasons this will not happen.

1. Rape is not a crime of sex, but a crime of domination and power. Rapists are not looking for the sexiest victim, but one they can easily overpower and dominate.

2. Even if rape was the result of being turned on (which it isn't) boobs just aren't all that sexy. When they're not propped up in some kind of harness, they're saggy, asymmetrical and weird looking. Observe:

3. Human predators in general are seeking easy prey - people who look unlikely to be able to defend themselves. A woman with her top off in a culture that finds that daring is signalling that she is confident and independent - therefore she doesn't look like an easy victim.

4. Most rape victims are attacked by their own partners, families, friends or acquaintances. Whether or not they are topless is completely inconsequential. What matters is that the abuser seeks to dominate the abused.

I don't think her boobs look "weird" .Just "real".

 

[Poeticus]

Namaste,

When the Soviets were raping millions of women from Lithuania all the way to Berlin (in Germany) during the last years of WWII (and a few years after the War)...they were exerting dominance over their "conquered" "subjects"...

But...

1. The Soviets also handpicked women to rape; looks were a big part or factor in the rapes.

2. The better looking the female they raped, the better they felt in destroying the German notion of "superiority" and pride.

This is one example were "looks" were involved.

To say that all rapes are about strictly "dominance" is a half-truth.

The Soviets engaged in raping sprees (the Soviet Army was literally lambasted as the Rapist Army) to exhort their dominance as well as subjugate as many pretty women as possible; their victory entitled them to the spoils: the Soviets literally thought they were not only "liberators", but warriors fighting a conqueror's war. They raped many women that they chose themselves. The most beautiful women had it the worst. These pretty women shaved their head and made themselves look "boyish" as much as possible to avoid being raped. This is the stuff that teachers won't teach you in high school, folks. This part of history is a hush hush matter, sadly.

M.V.

 

[ignition]

Namaste,

When the Soviets were raping millions of women from Lithuania all the way to Berlin (in Germany) during the last years of WWII (and a few years after the War)...they were exerting dominance over their "conquered" "subjects"...

But...

1. The Soviets also handpicked women to rape; looks were a big part or factor in the rapes.

2. The better looking the female they raped, the better they felt in destroying the German notion of "superiority" and pride.

This is one example were "looks" were involved.

To say that all rapes are about strictly "dominance" is a half-truth.

The Soviets engaged in raping sprees (the Soviet Army was literally lambasted as the Rapist Army) to exhort their dominance as well as subjugate as many pretty women as possible. This is the stuff that teachers won't teach you in high school, folks. This part of history is a hush hush matter, sadly.

M.V.

You're just like me, I always use the Soviet examples. Not many people know that the Soviets committed pretty much the same number of war crimes as the Nazis or maybe more, in fact the Nazis were so shocked at the scale of mass executions and rapes that they complained to Roosevelt...who turned a blind eye. The Soviet atrocities were horrific.

 

[Poeticus]

Namaste,

Not just the Soviets. But, the Japanese also handpicked women in Korea (it was known as Korea back then, not North and South) and China.

The most beautiful were rounded up, and taken to "brothels" were they were raped consistently into whoredom. Most of the times, these pretty females were raped in front of their families. Females in these situations, like their counterparts in Germany, also resorted to making themselves look ugly as possible in order to avoid "lusty" eyes...

Rape also has an attraction feature. There are countless cases of rapists going after just blondes...

So, please don't do an injustice to raped females throughout history by saying that raping is solely about domination. In doing so, such a person is spreading only propaganda.

M.V.

ps - The raping done by the Japanese was five times greater than the Soviet raping sprees. The Japanese raped without reluctance. I will conclude with a quote from a soldier of the Japanese Imperial Army:

"We were the Emperor's soldiers! We raped without reluctance!"

 

[Alceste]

overpower and dominate to do what? To have sex...you can dominate someone without having sex with them you know. Sexual assaults in the work place for example happen usually because of sexual attraction I would have thought, why would you bang someone who you thought is ugly and won't be satisfying at least mentally to strip them and take them?

All the rest of us on this planet who are not rapists get our sex without the feeling the need to overpower and dominate others. What sets a rapist apart from a normal person is ONLY the need to overpower and dominate others.

Here is a visual aid:

Neither circle is going to be expanded by women showing their boobs. The violent people are already raping people when they're horny, regardless of how much their victim is covered up, because they are violent. The horny people are already getting sex in a non-violent way.

 

[Alceste]

Rape is also about "entitlement" Alceste. Not just domination and power.I would be worried about the entitlement aspect.

Yeah, true, but I like to keep it simple for these guys. A lot of them don't even acknowledge that sexual entitlement is an actual thing.

 

[Poeticus]

You're just like me, I always use the Soviet examples. Not many people know that the Soviets committed pretty much the same number of war crimes as the Nazis or maybe more, in fact the Nazis were so shocked at the scale of mass executions and rapes that they complained to Roosevelt...who turned a blind eye. The Soviet atrocities were horrific.

Namaste,

The crimes of the Soviets were three times greater than the crimes of the Nazis. The crimes of the Imperial Japanese were five to seven times greater than both of them.

This is a part of history the high school teachers will never traverse upon.

The crimes of the Imperial Japanese make the Holocaust look small.

M.V.

 

[DallasApple]

Yeah, true, but I like to keep it simple for these guys. A lot of them don't even acknowledge that sexual entitlement is an actual thing.

You mean we have to dumb it down?????

 

[ignition]

All the rest of us on this planet who are not rapists get our sex without the feeling the need to overpower and dominate others. What sets a rapist apart from a normal person is ONLY the need to overpower and dominate others.

You don't seem to get it. Some (or most I don't know) rapists look at a fit girl and they think to themselves "Dang that ***** is fit, I'm going to tap that no matter what". It even happens in prisons to some males. Because they are deemed to be "good looking" and "young" they become an INSTANT target. The horniness of the rapists goes off the charts.

 

[ignition]

Yeah, true, but I like to keep it simple for these guys. A lot of them don't even acknowledge that sexual entitlement is an actual thing.

Easy there girl...

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Why is there a debate on the subject of rape motivation when 100% of respondents said "no" to the OP's question?

 

[Alceste]

Namaste,

When the Soviets were raping millions of women from Lithuania all the way to Berlin (in Germany) during the last years of WWII (and a few years after the War)...they were exerting dominance over their "conquered" "subjects"...

But...

1. The Soviets also handpicked women to rape; looks were a big part or factor in the rapes.

2. The better looking the female they raped, the better they felt in destroying the German notion of "superiority" and pride.

This is one example were "looks" were involved.

To say that all rapes are about strictly "dominance" is a half-truth.

The Soviets engaged in raping sprees (the Soviet Army was literally lambasted as the Rapist Army) to exhort their dominance as well as subjugate as many pretty women as possible; their victory entitled them to the spoils: the Soviets literally thought they were not only "liberators", but warriors fighting a conqueror's war. They raped many women that they chose themselves. The most beautiful women had it the worst. These pretty women shaved their head and made themselves look "boyish" as much as possible to avoid being raped. This is the stuff that teachers won't teach you in high school, folks. This part of history is a hush hush matter, sadly.

M.V.

This may be true, but the fact remains that MALE prisoners of war are also raped. Sometimes to an even greater extent than female prisoners.

How do you explain that one?

Feeling incredulous? Here's a link: The rape of men | Society | The Observer

As for Atim, she says: "Our staff are overwhelmed by the cases we've got, but in terms of actual numbers? This is the tip of the iceberg."

Later on I speak with Dr Angella Ntinda, who treats referrals from the RLP. She tells me: "Eight out of 10 patients from RLP will be talking about some sort of sexual abuse."


"Eight out of 10 men?" I clarify.
"No. Men and women," she says.
"What about men?"
"I think all the men."
I am aghast.
"All of them?" I say.
"Yes," she says. "All the men."

But that's prolly just horny heterosexual guys picking the prettiest victims, right?

We can talk about male-on-male prison rape too if you want. It's a freaking epidemic, but without a single bare boob in sight.

 

[Pagan_Patriot]

Maybe by immigrants from the third world, they might.

 

[Alceste]

So, please don't do an injustice to raped females throughout history by saying that raping is solely about domination. In doing so, such a person is spreading only propaganda.

So all those male-on-male rape victims in the Congo were raped because they were pretty?

Back at RLP I'm told about the other ways in which their clients have been made to suffer. Men aren't simply raped, they are forced to penetrate holes in banana trees that run with acidic sap, to sit with their genitals over a fire, to drag rocks tied to their penis, to give oral sex to queues of soldiers, to be penetrated with screwdrivers and sticks. Atim has now seen so many male survivors that, frequently, she can spot them the moment they sit down. "They tend to lean forward and will often sit on one buttock," she tells me. "When they cough, they grab their lower regions. At times, they will stand up and there's blood on the chair. And they often have some kind of smell."

The rape of men | Society | The Observer