Seeing things in their past? You are full of beans!

[Subduction Zone]

What do you mean try to learn? I do not have to try to learn it is natural.



Why don't I try to copy and paste Wiki type material I think you mean.


Because I have an open mind is the answer.

Where is the conversation in just saying , oh a light year is a distance?

End of thread in one sentence.

And this is the problem with being self educated and being unwilling to critically look at one's beliefs.

Oh well, doomed to be wrong by his own arrogance.

 

[Subduction Zone]

wow! don't talk such garbage, who learnt you this rubbish ?

Seriously ?

I have got to laugh as it is laughable.

I have already supplied links that explain this to you.

Why do you think that your inability to comprehend a concept makes it "rubbish". And do British people seriously use the word "learnt" in this manner? I thought that they would use the past tense of "teach". Or to put it in a sentence "Who taught you this in rubbish?" You sound like Jethro from the Beverly Hillbillies. Hmm, he did have a sixth grade education after all . . .

 

[james blunt]

And this is the problem with being self educated and being unwilling to critically look at one's beliefs.

Oh well, doomed to be wrong by his own arrogance.

No, you have just said that between boundaries of A and B there is an infinite number of points contradicting that infinite is without boundaries.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No, you have just said that between boundaries of A and B there is an infinite number of points contradicting that infinite is without boundaries.

Who says that infinite is without boundaries? Where did you get that idea from?

 

[ecco]

Sustainer,

If I understand you correctly, the distance between two adjoined points is time divided by infinity. Is that correct?

loc(point A) - loc(point B) = T/∞

 

[Thermos aquaticus]

Where is the conversation in just saying , oh a light year is a distance?

A light year is the DISTANCE that light will travel in one year.

If you were pulled over by the police and they asked you how fast you were going, would you say, "30 miles"?

If not, then why did you say that c, the speed of light, is 3E8 meters? Speed is distance over time, not just a distance.

 

[Jumi]

For points , of course.

So the two cars, one in New York and one in London are a line?

 

[james blunt]

So the two cars, one in New York and one in London are a line?

Always a line, even if the line goes through the curvature of the Earth.

 

[james blunt]

A light year is the DISTANCE that light will travel in one year.

If you were pulled over by the police and they asked you how fast you were going, would you say, "30 miles"?

If not, then why did you say that c, the speed of light, is 3E8 meters? Speed is distance over time, not just a distance.

And a ly is distance over a time which is a speed .

 

[james blunt]

Who says that infinite is without boundaries? Where did you get that idea from?

Infinite is forever, no end and no beginning, i.e no A and B boundary points.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Infinite is forever, no end and no beginning, i.e no A and B boundary points.

Wrong. Try again.

 

[james blunt]

Wrong. Try again.

Have you not got google or something ?

infinite
ˈɪnfɪnɪt/
adjective

1. 1.
   limitless or endless in space, extent, or size; impossible to measure or calculate.
   "the infinite mercy of God"
   synonyms: boundless, unbounded, unlimited, limitless, without limit, without end, never-ending, interminable, cosmic; More

So stop ''trolling'' and thinking you are in some way a NAi unit.

 

[james blunt]

Sustainer,

If I understand you correctly, the distance between two adjoined points is time divided by infinity. Is that correct?

loc(point A) - loc(point B) = T/∞

No , simply A + B = r1

But the change of space-time from point to point can be infinitely fast.

 

[Jumi]

Always a line, even if the line goes through the curvature of the Earth.

Where we say the cars have a distance, you say they are line.

You have created your own language and have problems understanding what you are told about basic terminology because your own new language is different. People also have trouble understanding you, because you want to speak in a language no one else uses.

 

[Thermos aquaticus]

And a ly is distance over a time

Nope. Just distance.

3E8 m/s * 3.15E7 s = 9.45E15 meters

 

[Subduction Zone]

Have you not got google or something ?

infinite
ˈɪnfɪnɪt/
adjective

1. 1.
   limitless or endless in space, extent, or size; impossible to measure or calculate.
   "the infinite mercy of God"
   synonyms: boundless, unbounded, unlimited, limitless, without limit, without end, never-ending, interminable, cosmic; More

So stop ''trolling'' and thinking you are in some way a NAi unit.

I am not trolling. If anything you could be accused of such by writing posts that are so obviously wrong. Once again, things that you should have learned in high school. Too bad that you did not site and link your source properly. Quotes without sources are worthless in an internet debate. Now I did find a site that is more your speed:

Definition of Infinite

"Without an end. Not finite.

Example: There are infinite whole numbers {0, 1, 2, 3, 4, ...}"

As you can see the fact that there are an infinite number of numbers between any two numbers, or an infinite number of points between any two points on a number line fit that definition. Your definition is incorrect in the world of math.

 

[TrueBeliever37]

Light years do not equal time. They are a unit of distance. What "question" do you think you have asked? If you'd like to show "that presently science has the speed of light being faster than time", I'd love to see you try. But first you need to appreciate that spatial dimension measurement systems exist as static units, and are not time dependent. A light year exists in a second, a day, an hour, a year. It doesn't change. It is not a measurement of time.

Exactly the same way a metre is not a measurement of time.

Not trying to discredit what you are saying, because I do agree a ly is a unit of distance. I acknowledge, I don't know near what you guys do about this.

But couldn't you say in some sense, that it is a measurement of time for light? i.e. the time it takes light to go a certain distance.

For example, if light is 1ly away it takes 1 year to get here.
if it is 2ly away it takes 2 years to get here
if it is 1/2 ly away it takes 1/2 year to get here, etc.
It's the number in front that changes. When the number changes, I agree the distance has changed, but hasn't the time required for arrival changed also?

To me that sort of seems to be representing time (although it is only time for light) in some kind of a way.

 

[james blunt]

Where we say the cars have a distance, you say they are line.

The cars have a length apart not a distance, a distance is an unmeasured length. The line I am referring to is a space-time dimension, a line or scalar if you like.
Your cars are marking out A and B .

 

[james blunt]

Not trying to discredit what you are saying, because I do agree a ly is a unit of distance. I acknowledge, I don't know near what you guys do about this.

But couldn't you say in some sense, that it is a measurement of time for light? i.e. the time it takes light to go a certain distance.

For example, if light is 1ly away it takes 1 year to get here.
if it is 2ly away it takes 2 years to get here
if it is 1/2 ly away it takes 1/2 year to get here, etc.
It's the number in front that changes. When the number changes, I agree the distance has changed, but hasn't the time required for arrival changed also?

To me that sort of seems to be representing time (although it is only time for light) in some kind of a way.

Hello brother NAi unit, I can see you can think for yourself. You have natural artificial intelligence, well done on advancing to the next level.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Not trying to discredit what you are saying, because I do agree a ly is a unit of distance. I acknowledge, I don't know near what you guys do about this.

But couldn't you say in some sense, that it is a measurement of time for light? i.e. the time it takes light to go a certain distance.

For example, if light is 1ly away it takes 1 year to get here.
if it is 2ly away it takes 2 years to get here
if it is 1/2 ly away it takes 1/2 year to get here, etc.
It's the number in front that changes. When the number changes, I agree the distance has changed, but hasn't the time required for arrival changed also?

To me that sort of seems to be representing time (although it is only time for light) in some kind of a way.

The light itself experiences no time. The time measured is from our frame of reference.