Sex before marriage?????

[Trailblazer]

Yes I did hear about lots of virgins in the afterlife. So for sure "no sex with eternal virgins".
Though I did have a feeling that some people do interpret this in another way

There is no sex in the afterlife because there are no physical bodies in the spiritual world.
Physical bodies are necessary for sex.

 

[stvdv]

There will be no sex in the afterlife, so I decided to prepare for that ahead of time.

There is no sex in the afterlife because there are no physical bodies in the spiritual world.
Physical bodies are necessary for sex.

But would it be necessary to prepare in this life for "no sex" in the afterlife. If we do not have physical bodies I can imagine we have no physical urges
Don't get me wrong ... Just keep on preparing, I do the same (though I do it for this life), I never thought about afterlife in that connection.

 

[sealchan]

So different churches and different religions do different things.

However , the Evangelical conservative Christian church many not all have a certain values before marriage rules. I am not picking on Christianity, there are probably other religions who have stricter rules.So if anyone from other religions have certain view points don't be afraid to share them.

It was popular to have Christian parents for while back to pick out the spouse for their child. Also many only date someone if they are going to marry them. Dating around is not accepted.

Many many Christians do not believe ins ex before marriage , and someone do not even believe in touching before marriage!

Christians say statistics prove the loner you wait on sex the better your sex life will be, this maybe true statistics I don't know.

I will say this for me, noway am I getting involved with a man who does not want to touch me before marriage nope!I think having sex before marriage is a good thing for me. I am not waiting and I want to be able to trust my spouse that we are right for each other in bed as well as out.

So whats you belief set on sex before marriage and also how you date? By dating I mean, is dating around ok? Do you select your child's spouse? Do you just date to marry only? If you don't have sex before marriage are you aloud to hold hands hug kiss that type of thing? What about oral sex or 3rd base?

In the west the romantic ideal of two people, finding in each other a soul mate, with a passion (sexual and emotional) capable of inspiring ultimate sacrifice trumps any religious and social convention in my book. Who could pass by, without a deep spiritual castration, the call of such inspiration?

This is not to say that wisdom and experience have no place...these things also have a voice. But if you cant follow your own inner choice once those diverse views have their say then you have robbed that person the right to make their own life and live with the consequences.

 

[Trailblazer]

But would it be necessary to prepare in this life for "no sex" in the afterlife. If we do not have physical bodies I can imagine we have no physical urges

We won't have physical urges but souls who are attached to physical things like sex will think about them because they will be fully conscious...
Hell can be thought of as thinking about something you can no longer have.
Imagine having to do that forever.

 

[stvdv]

We won't have physical urges but souls who are attached to physical things like sex will think about them because they will be fully conscious...
Hell can be thought of as thinking about something you can no longer have.
Imagine having to do that forever.

I did not have sex for ages. That craving disappears rather quick in my experience (or my Master took it away maybe). So when you are in the afterlife for eternity, after a few years your craving will be gone anyway. And who worries about a few years, when being there for eternity?

 

[BilliardsBall]

Your dangerous views are probably the result of a good Christian education. An education that did not tell you how to practice safe sex. An education that drummed it into your head that sex is bad, bad, bad.

How Purity Pledges Lead to Unintended Pregnancies and STDs
A new study suggests teens who vow to be sexually abstinent until marriage—and then break that vow—are more likely to wind up pregnant than those who never took the pledge to begin with.

https://www.webmd.com/sexual-conditions/news/20050322/virginity-pledges-dont-cut-std-rates#1
Young people who take virginity pledges are as likely to get sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) as those who do not make the same pledge, new research shows.​

Ignorance is not bliss.

Show me the error in my logic:

Abstinence is 100% effective against STDs, unplanned pregnancy and a broken heart. I didn't say "abstinence education" but I said "abstinence".

Of course, this is predicated on "I'm a person in God's image, not a mere animal who must follow through all urges prompted by mere instinct."

 

[BilliardsBall]

Interestingly the accolade for the highest rate of STDs and pregnancy of unmarried girls/women and poverty in America is the held by the bible belt?

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Abstinence ends unwanted pregnancies and STDs, not abstinence education, whether religious or secular.

Please tell me what practicing abstinence is ineffective against pregnancy (abortion/death) and STDs (cell death/death).

The Bible says, "a person's ways may seem right to them but lead to DEATH".

 

[ChristineM]

Abstinence ends unwanted pregnancies and STDs, not abstinence education, whether religious or secular.

Please tell me what practicing abstinence is ineffective against pregnancy (abortion/death) and STDs (cell death/death).

The Bible says, "a person's ways may seem right to them but lead to DEATH".

Tell that to your bible belt buddies

 

[ecco]

I don't think they have cows on Vulcan,

Apparently, they have duckanddodge where you are from.

 

[ecco]

You can accept or ignore what i say if it contradicts your conclusions on my religion and all its people,

I don't think that you can speak for your religion and all its people.

 

[ecco]

Abstinence ends unwanted pregnancies and STDs, not abstinence education, whether religious or secular.

Please tell me what practicing abstinence is ineffective against pregnancy (abortion/death) and STDs (cell death/death).

The Bible says, "a person's ways may seem right to them but lead to DEATH".

The best way to force abstinence is male castration. Is that what you are proposing?

Other than that, How do you suggest enforcing abstinence?

 

[ecco]

When you can bust the resurrection of Christ then you can feel better about your own beliefs.

First ya gotta show there really was a Christ. One way to do that would be to show what anyone contemporaneously wrote about him.

 

[ecco]

I meant that even in marriage sex is not an imperative.

I used to think it was, but that was a long time ago.
Some people mature over time....

Or, some people just got stuck with someone who wasn't all that interested in sex to begin with.

There will be no sex in the afterlife, so I decided to prepare for that ahead of time.

Thank god I'm going to hell.

 

[ecco]

Physical bodies are necessary for sex.

Nonsense. Arousal can be entirely mental. Orgasm can be entirely mental.

 

[1213]

Did Matthew have a wife? Did Mark, Luke or John? Did Jesus have a wife?

I don’t know did the disciples have wives. I think it is possible that they had, because:

Have we no right to take along a wife who is a believer, even as the rest of the apostles, and the brothers of the Lord, and Cephas?
1 Cor. 9:5

Jesus knew he will die soon, that is why I believe he didn’t have wife.

For the most part, men who avoid having relations with women are gay.

I think that is baseless claim and not true.

 

[ecco]

For the most part, men who avoid having relations with women are gay. Gay men like to hang out with other gay men.

I think that is baseless claim and not true.

Then I sure you can show some other reasons men avoid having sexual relations with women.

 

[Jainarayan]

Apparently, they have duckanddodge where you are from.

Disagreeing is one thing, getting personal is another. Would you like to rephrase?

 

[Wasp]

Arranged marriages are EVIL, all countries should ban them.

Why?

 

[ecco]

Promising a seven-year-old is disgusting. It may have happened with your grandparents, but I'm willing to bet it is still happening now.

What is the price for a seven-year-old; two cows?

I don't think they have cows on Vulcan,

Apparently, they have duckanddodge where you are from.

Disagreeing is one thing, getting personal is another. Would you like to rephrase?

No. Why would you ask that? I asked you a serious question and you evaded responding by stating: I don't think they have cows on Vulcan,

 

[Jainarayan]

No. Why would you ask that? I asked you a serious question and you evaded responding by stating: I don't think they have cows on Vulcan,

"What is the price for a seven-year-old; two cows?" is a serious question? I don't think so. Especially given the assumption that my family is from India.