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Sexuality and Choice...
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madhatter85
Transhumanist
I never equated homosexual behavior to rape.
Abnormality (behavior) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
madhatter85
Transhumanist
Yes it is meaningless without Love
Are you asserting that homosexuals do not have the capacity to love a member of the opposite sex?
Mr Cheese
Well-Known Member
do some research.... you'll find your ONE web source is poor at best and if you actually read it, is slanted to give a misinformed view...but there
The term world population commonly refers to the total number of living humans on Earth at a given time. As of 30 October 2009, the Earth's population is estimated by the United States Census Bureau to be 6.794 billion.[1] The world population has been growing continuously since the end of the Black Death around 1400.[2] There were also short term falls at other times due to plague, for example in the mid 17th century (see graph). The fastest rates of world population growth (above 1.8%) were seen briefly during the 1950s then for a longer period during the 1960s and 1970s (see graph). According to population projections, world population will continue to grow until around 2050. The 2008 rate of growth has almost halved since its peak of 2.2% per year, which was reached in 1963. World births have levelled off at about 134 million per year, since their peak at 163-million in the late 1990s, and are expected to remain constant. However, deaths are only around 57 million per year, and are expected to increase to 90 million by the year 2050. Because births outnumber deaths, the world's population is expected to reach about 9 billion by the year 2040
Whehter you are right or wrong on this issue, is rather irrelivant...
You are still denying people legal rights, because of what they do with their genitals
That is the bottom line:help:
I did not think you did, I said if the standard is absurd it does not make what breaks against that standard an issue.
Mr Cheese
Well-Known Member
madhatter85
Transhumanist
they can live together, cohabit, whatever you want to call it but that does not require us to provide them with privileges that were put in place as an investment in the future of the nation.
The Hospital visitation rules are the ones that need changed, not marriage laws. Tax breaks were given to raise families as an investment int he future of the nation. It is quite simple really. Reproduction means more taxpayers and more work force, more GDP, more ideas ect... those ideas are not represented with homosexual couples.
Mr Cheese
Well-Known Member
You are aware that american school children spend less time (hours) being educated than any other children in an industrialised nation on the planet?
I see your arguments are froma social darwinism stance....
thank gawd some people think there's more to life than breeding and making money...
Jesus really, simply isnt a part of your ethos is he....
"And Lo, Jesus said, go forth and breed so we can have a bigger GDP"
:foot:
madhatter85
Transhumanist
Love is love. you may claim there are different "kinds" of love, But that is false.
Sexual urges are separate and are controlled by different sections of the brain.
madhatter85
Transhumanist
Because the CWF is slanted and bias? sure.:no:
madhatter85
Transhumanist
The reasons law makers put these privileges into place were the reasons i stated.You are aware that american school children spend less time (hours) being educated than any other children in an industrialised nation on the planet?
I see your arguments are froma social darwinism stance....
thank gawd some people think there's more to life than breeding and making money...
Jesus really, simply isnt a part of your ethos is he....
"And Lo, Jesus said, go forth and breed so we can have a bigger GDP"
:foot:
I know there are tons of other things associate with Life.
However, on this particular subject since you reject religious beliefs and morality claims by claiming "God made them this way, it's in their genes!" I am taking a different approach to show you that homosexual behavior is unnatural, flawed, and/or defective by your own logic.
If you wish to bring emotions and morality claims to the debate you cannot object to the other side doing the same or you make yourself a hypocrite.
No, there are many forms of love. I do not love my brother as I loved my ex when we where together, I do not love my parents as I love my brother, I do not love my future girlfriend the same way as I would love my future children. I love my friends in another way then I love someone I am in a relationship. Yes, there are MANY forms of love, and that is the truth.
Something that you have failed at. Homosexuality does not harm society, it does not cost more, it is no threat to humanity what so ever. What does all that is intolerance. When people are beaten up and murdered because of their sexual preferences it is plain stupidity to claim that the sexual preference is the issue.
Mr Cheese
Well-Known Member
Actually
The American laws were made to prevent religion encroaching on human rights
America has a concept, seperation of church and state
Law makers were actually RUNNING screaming from fundamnetalist views that wanted a theocracy...views such as YOURS
I reject bigotry
which is why IO mentioned rights,
how women were only recently allowed to vote
how black americans were only recently allowed in "white schools"
how asian americans were even considered homosapiens
Your arguemnts amount to the same thing
But then the Mormon church has been bigoted for a long time....
so I guess I should not be surprised
If you want to change reality we can discuss bugs bunny if you prefer
I have had a life, you know. I have experienced most of the forms of love I speak of... trust me, they are not the same.
madhatter85
Transhumanist
to your bolded underlined statement, homosexuality itself may not cost more, but your insistence on trying to force people to accept it as "normal" cost hundreds of millions, even billions. Everything was great until you convinced yourselves homosexual behavior is normal.
Proposition 8 - Tracking the money -- latimes.com
Same could be said about racism, but we only see racists whining about it. Truth is that if you want to change something it is going to cost. Does that mean we should never try and change anything for the better? Absolutely not.