Deathbydefault
Apistevist Asexual Atheist
Not at all.
From what I've read of your posts concerning this, you seem to be more questioning than assertive.
Nothing wrong with that.
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Sharing an observation about atheism here on RF
- Thread starter Skwim
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Not at all.
From what I've read of your posts concerning this, you seem to be more questioning than assertive.
Nothing wrong with that.
Bunyip
pro scapegoat
Don't forget that the Theory of Evolution, the Big Bang theory and many, many other pivotal scientific discoveries were made by theists. So I think that believers have been just as successful in applying scientific materialism as have atheists.
Fair enough. All I'm saying is that it seems to me that the widespread set of beliefs in the unique validity of science as a means of ascertaining absolute truth, a lack of belief in any deity and a lack of belief in anything supernatural is just that - a set of beliefs, a philosophy or belief system in its own right. It makes certain assumptions. Calling that atheism is indeed a poor use of the term. But it's hard to find an appropriate one.
Bunyip
pro scapegoat
Well that it is hard to find a more appropriate term is not a good reason to link it to atheism is it?
I don't think we disagree. This is just what the term sometimes is used to describe, but I agree it is inappropriate. Atheism is a key tenet of the philosophy, but is only part of what defines it.
Bunyip
pro scapegoat
How is atheism a tenet of scientific materialism at all, let alone a key tenet? Surely if that were so, Darwin would never have published 'On the Origin of Species'?
OK, throw out the term scientific materialism as a descriptive term. I'm talking about a particular worldview. As described.
Bunyip
pro scapegoat
I won't quote, because you know what I mean when I say the trend found in Western societies in particular which includes atheism and an emphasis on science and rationality. I guess you'd include Dawkins and Hitchens, but also many more moderate people of similar beliefs.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
I think that that is against the forum rules.
Bunyip
pro scapegoat
I know what you mean, but think it is a strawman - and so would love a specific example.
What do you mean strawman, I'm not attacking it?
Bunyip
pro scapegoat
Only if he is referring to a member here - which would hardly be an authority anyway.
Bunyip
pro scapegoat
I mean the definition of scientific materialism you gave in post 203. It is a strawman.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Stop being a big baby and answer the question, I'm excited for he answer.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
What question? I'm not interested in this particular debate, couldn't care less.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
But here you are debating ?.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
No, I was debating something else in the thread. the quote rules thing is not part of this debate,
psychoslice
Veteran Member
I feel things that I cannot put words to, such as beyond the mind, Consciousness, but I will never debate it, for it cannot be conceptualized, or put into words, It would only make myself look ignorant if I did.
Bunyip
pro scapegoat
No worries. I wasn't meaning to quote from another thread here, but from some source they though useful.