I think that you & I have different understandings of how our government functions.
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She's Baaaaaaaack....Or Is She?
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Mr Spinkles
Mr
Right. No sources. No verification. ... We agree.
This just in: Bloomberg might not be considering Hillary to be his running mate. No sources, no verification. Please discuss.
Kidding aside: that’s fine if you recognize it as gossip, I’m happy to indulge. I enjoy a good candy bar as much as the next political junkie.
It is indeed a fact that he had that opinion.
However, his opinion is not a fact.
Not all news reported turns out to be true.
This is so even for your tribe's revered sources, eg, New York Times.
But you wouldn't dismiss them because of some occasional error...
...or even outright fabrication, eh.
You & your judge have your opinion.
Feel free to correct Wikipedia.
See how that goes.
Liberals had been suppressing Bill Clinton's scandals, perhaps
under the guise of calling it "gossip". But it was up to Matt Drudge
to expose what became important, with even left leaning media
belatedly covering it.
But, once again, your explanation for how things are is to make demonstrably false claims on the internet.
Yes, we do have a different understanding of how our government works. As long as you get your tax cuts, you don't care what happens to the rest of us who aren't rich white males.
Tom
Mr Spinkles
Mr
By the way - you are right that the Dems need to realize the mistakes and shenanigans on their part that helped Trump win. Such as feeding her the debate questions. That was really unseemly.
I’m afraid Trump will win regardless this time around, whether the Dems make those same mistakes again, or not.
Feel free to offer a cogent evidence based argument for your case.
Otherwise you just make the other liberals look bad.
Mr Spinkles
Mr
The guy reported and then withdrew a story about an official beating his wife, then argued in federal court he can’t be sued for that because he’s not a journalist but a purveyor of gossip. You are dismissing that as “opinion”? Doesn’t that fact pattern tell you something? You sound like someone justifying a McDonalds Happy Meal because it came with a Diet Coke ... if you want to live in denial about what you are consuming, go right ahead, I guess.
Yes the NYT gets stuff wrong. Scientists get stuff wrong too. Does that make Drudge a scientist? He’s not a journalist the same reason he’s not a scientist: method. Does he have an editorial board that peer-reviews his exclusives and does he have a policy for only publishing stories that can be verified by at least a certain number of independent sources? Oh, he doesn’t - you just said it was without a source and unverified.
If that’s journalism then a Trump Taco is Mexican food.
I have no idea who will win.
Much can happen in the next half year or so.
But it would be great if I could think about the Dems....
"That pair looks to offer much better results for the country than Trump."
It's possible.
I told you that this is one person's opinion.
Bad analogy.
You're saying that something is The Truth because you
agree with the ruling of one judge in one context.
Are you serious with that reasoning?
I've said he's a journalist (& given sources), not a scientist.
Where on Earth do you get this stuff.
You've given your personal description of what a journalist must be,
but you're one person who dislikes Drudge, citing one judge.
I gave links which you've ignored.
But even worse, you're deflecting by trying to make it about whether
or not he is a certified "journalist", thereby taking attention away from
the issue. And all these bad food analogies....you need new material.
tytlyf
Not Religious
Who doesn't accept responsibility?
Still waiting on an answer to my first post.
She's Baaaaaaaack....Or Is She?
Those party members who enabled Hillary's nomination.
I don't answer pretend, rhetorical & loaded questions.
The first time I realized that USA doesn't elect Presidents was in 1980. My first election.
I was happy that that dufus Christian Carter lost. Who wants a weinie Christian in the White House?
Then I realized that what was being described as "a landslide" was closer to a 52-48 win. That's not a landslide in my book. If that were the score of a ball game, it'd be called a squeaker.
I talked to my Dad about this. He explained that the EC won't ever vote against the American people because America is a democracy and we "just don't do that".
I trusted him, sorta. But I paid more attention to the reality and less to the hype, after that. I can't help but notice how much the rigging of the system benefits rich folks. Especially, rich white dudes.
I really first started hating the EC rigging of the system in 2000. One candidate's brother was governor of a swing state, Florida. I watched as rich white dudes broke the law to get their candidate elected. And I watched as the other rich white dude gave it to them.
Because bro code. The rich white men's club was more important to Al Gore than democracy or justice or law.
I started despising the Democratic party. I still do. But not quite as much as the alternative. From trashing the economy to starting corporate wars to lowering the standards of political discourse to encouraging the looting of the USA, I have opinions now about the TeaParty that runs the GOP. I don't trust the Republican party anymore to care about this country or American values.
Trump is the epitome of modern Republican values. Lies, greed, media manipulation, trashing the country, but all wrapped in a Red White and Blue flag with a Christian cross(carefully placed to deceive low information voters).
Tom
In this environment of the delusional, uneducated and toxic society, no, this is just another circlejerk for those with a particular obsession.
Stanyon
WWMRD?
Could it be because she keeps sticking her nose into politics all the time? She's a wino and is a bit like a case of herpes because she just keeps coming back.
I hope she doesn't throw up on our shoes again
Mr Spinkles
Mr
How has she stuck her nose into politics post 2016? Because she wrote a book?
Last I heard of Hillary, she told Ellen Degeneres in an interview “it’s never going to happen” regarding another election run.
I essentially never see or hear about Hillary, except from conservative friends and RW media that continues to obsess over her. For clearly self serving reasons - they need a really unpopular Democratic candidate to provide a smokescreen for the orange toddler in the WH.
Mr Spinkles
Mr
I didn’t ignore the links I just didn’t see the part where it said Drudge’s exclusives are reliable, because he’s a good journalist who is careful to get his stories right. Maybe I missed it? I think I hit a pay wall on the Telegraph story.
If the rumor isn’t true in the first place there’s no “issue” to discuss - just a hypothetical. Which again I’m happy to do. Sorry for pointing out the nutritional information written on your bucket of ice cream.
If there was any source other than Matt Drudge for this rumor, his credibility wouldn’t matter as much. We could just cite a different source and move on and discuss a possible Bloomberg-Hillary ticket. But apparently this all comes from Drudge. That source is dicey - and tends to find ways to slime Democrats, based on past experience.
To say I’ve only cited one judge’s opinion to support that claim is a straw man, and you know that.
You can have the last word on Drudge ... if you want to eat that stuff be my guest.
tytlyf
Not Religious
So you think it's OK to create threads based on no sources? Low credibility sources?
Things sometimes go better left unsaid. Thanks to you and your belief of the Dailymail being a reputable outlet, now the general public has to be subjected to this conspiracy nonsense.
Exactly what's wrong with the country.
dianaiad
Well-Known Member
I like that one. Hope it's an option. I can think of few things that would most surely insure Trump's re-election.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Thats absolutely hillifying!
