Shia Qaim vs Shia Clergy

[InvestigateTruth]

Mojtaba Wrote:

Imam Baghir[5th Imam] said,(see the chain of the narrators in the source):
"Allah has sealed the heavenly books through your Book(Qur'an) and the Prophets through your Prophet"
(Source: al-Kafi by Koleyni, H 423, Ch. 3, h 3)

Imam Ridha(the 8th Imam) has said (see the chain of the narrators in the source),

Muhammad is His servant and His Messenger and .... and (Muhammad is) the Master of the Messengers, the Seal of Prophets and the best of the creatures,there will not be any prophet after him, and there will not be an alteration in his(Muhammad) Religion(Islam) and there will not be an alteration in his Shari'ah(Islamic Laws).




My reply:


All these Traditions you are Quoting are correct in my view, However, let's not forget that, when the Imams said there is No Prophet or Book, after Muhammad, They are speaking about dispensation of Islam. That is, untill Qaim, No new Book or Prophet to appear.


Mojtaba, is also Quoting Hadithes that when Qaim comes, He corrects the misinterpretations regarding Quran as an evidence that, Qaim does not reveal any new Book.


My reply:

There are various Traditions with regards to what Qaim was supposed to accomplish. There are Traditions that Qaim corrects the misinterpretations of Quran, and there are Traditions that Qaim comes with a New Book, New Covenant, and New Law.

All of them are correct. Which means Qaim was to correct misinterpretations of Quran as well as bringing New Book and Covenant.

It is essencially the same thing Muhammad did. He corrected the misinterpretations in Bible and also brought a New Book with new Law.

Let's also not forget, that, though Allah made a firm covenant with Jews to keep the Sabath forever, as confirmed in Quran, later, Allah abrogated this Law and covenant, otherwise the Muslims were required to keep it as well. By the same logic, even if Allah told Muslims to keep their Laws forever (which He did Not!!), yet, Allah has power and Authority to abrogate it.
Quran also declairs, to each period, there is a Book, what He wills, He abrogates.... (Quran 13:38-39)

And. I have shown here the period of Islam was 1000 years:

http://www.religiousforums.com/threads/shia-muslim-bahai-period-of-muslims.185239/

 

[spirit_of_dawn]

OP expects us to believe the false statements of Baha'u'llah and believe his words while the same person didn't have a clue about scientific matters. He claims all planets have countless aliens on them:

"Know thou that every fixed star hath its own planets, and every planet its own creatures, whose number no man can compute." (Baha’u’llah, Gleanings from the Writings of Baha’u’llah, p. 163)
​

RIP science and reason.

 

[mojtaba]

My Reply: True, Qaim is an Arab in a sense that His lineage goes to the Prophet through Imam Hussein. In another Words, His genealogy is a pure lineage, which goes back to the Prophet, who was Arab.

However Both Shia and Sunni have a Hadith that, the Prophet said the following:

"...I swear by the One in whose hand is my soul, if faith were to be suspended at the Pleiades some men from the Persians will attain it.”

InvestigateTruth, please investigate the Truth, instead of changing it. You has again deleted a part of the Hadith to prove your lies. Shame on you.

Full Hadith(deleted critical part is bolded and underlined),
And if you turn away He will replace you with another people and they will not be like you." (Qur'an Ch: 47, Vs: 38),
The Messenger of God was asked about those people while Salman( I.e., Salman Farsi, one of the Iranian Companions of Prophet Muhammad) was sitting by his side. He(ie, Prophet) patted him(ie, Salman Farsi) on the thigh and said: 'This one and his people. I swear by the One in whose hand is my soul, if faith were to be suspended at the Pleiades some men from the Persians will attain it.”

So, this Hadith clearly says that those Persians are not Arab and also are not from the descendants of Prophet Muhammad. Rather, they are from the peoples of Salman Farsi, who was an Iranian.

In any way, this tradition is about the faith and faithful mans, not about the Imamat(leadership) and Qaim.

In Bihar it is recorded that, Imam Ja’far Sadiq (a.s.) said:

“There will be a very few Arabs with the Qaim (a.s.).”

Regardless of authenticity of the tradition, how does this prove that the Qaim is not an Arab?!!
This tradition is about the companions of Qaim, not Qaim himself.
Also, it should be said that I have not searched about the authenticity of the tradition.

My Reply: True. However, all the Imams, were considered Son of Muhammad. The Term 'Son' in Hadithes, does not always mean literally the same Son as we understand according to biology. Otherwise how could, for example Imam Sadiq be considered Son of Muhammad?

That the Son of Imam Askari was called Qaim is true. However, At the time of reappearance, a new Person, who has identical spiritual power and qualities was to rise. I have already shown in the thread called 'In what kind of Rajat do you believe", that by reappearance of the Qaim, is meant, 'Reappearance of the same spiritual power' in a new Person.
The Imams did not say, they were speaking literally! Their Hadithes with regards to rise of Qaim are ambiguous. Did not the Imams say, Our Hadithes are extremely difficult, Only an angel from Heaven can understand....?

I have answered to this issue in another thread. But because you are not investigating the truth, you do not consider them and repeatedly say your sayings.

The term 'Son' in the traditions which say that the Qaim is the Son of Imam Hasan Askari, exactly means biological son. See this tradition for an instance, which is in Bihar al-Anwar,

Ibrahim ibn Idris has said :
" Imam Hasan Askari(peace be upon him) sent to me a sheep and said:'Slaughter this sheep because of (the birth of) my so-and-so son, and eat its meat, you and your household '. So I did it and after thatI saw the Imam and he said to me:'The son of mine that was born, died.' After that, he(i.e., Imam Hasan Askari) sent to me two sheep and also a letter on which has been written:' In the name of Allah, the Beneficent the Merciful; Slaughter these sheep because of (the birth of) your Master(ie, Qaim, Imam Mahdi), and eat them you and your brothers in religion.' So I did it and after that I saw Imam, and he then didn't say to me anything."(i.e., his Master, Imam Mahdi, Son of Imam Hasan Askari had not died)

Recall that, this tradition is what you deleted the second part of it to prove wrongly that the Imam Mahdi died.
See, http://www.religiousforums.com/thre...and-imams-do-you-believe.182147/#post-4552269, post 8.

My Reply: According to many Hadithes, the Qaim at the time of reappearance is a young man.
In the Holy Books, 'return' or 'reappearance' of a Prophet is in a spiritual sense. We have already seen an example of that. Elijah returned as John the Baptist.

You can read pages 40-47 of the following book for a list of Hadithes, that Qaim at the time of Rising is a younge man:

https://www.h-net.org/~bahai/areprint/authors/gulpaygani/Kitab_Faraid_1_99.pdf

This proves, Return of Son of Imam Askari, is a spiritual return.

Yes, Qaim is a young man, because God preserves him against aging and the death, like the Companions of the Cave(As-hab al-Kahf) who according to Quran, God
put them to sleep in the Cave for several years(According to traditions, 309 yrs) and after those years, they get up. But they saw themselves like the time at which they were put to sleep. See Chapter Al-Kahf(18).

They were alive, because Quran says about them,

They were asleep. And We turned them to the right and to the left(18:18)

This verse proves that they were alive and asleep. Because like alives, they turn to the right and to the left when they were asleep.

But after 309 yrs, when they get up, they did not see any change in their age and body. They taught that they have slept a day or a part of a day,

18:19
We awakened them that they might question one another. Said a speaker from among them, "How long have you remained [here]?" They said, "We have remained a day or part of a day."

Indeed, the example of Qaim is like the exame of the Companions of the Cave.

My Reply: You are aware that the Imams said, the believers never die, and are always alive. That they have said Qaim, Son of Imam is alive, it is in a spiritual sense.
Notice, the Imams have said, the Qaim, has a long life, like Noah. However, the long life of Noah, is also spiritual. These are ambiguous verses and Hadithes.
The Purposes of the Prophet and Imams of speaking ambiguous, was to test Shias at the time of Qaim.
If these Hadithes were simply to be interpreted literally, why would the Imams say "Our Hadithes are extremely difficult, Only an Angel from Heaven can bear them"??

According to traditions, Imam Mahdi is physically alive.
There are traditions in which infallible Imams have said that the Qaim went to occultation because he fears from the tyrants of the time to kill him.

So, Imam Mahdi, the biological boy of Imam Hasan Askari has born at 246A.H. and is now in his magor occultation.
Also, Bab was a liar.

 

[InvestigateTruth]

Dear Mojtaba,

I think we should not read in the Hadithes, more than what they say!

This is precisely what the Hadith says in regards to the lineage of the Qaim:



“If there should not remain from the world but a single day, Allah, the Exalted, will prolong that day until He sends a man from my progeny, whose name is my name.” Salman (a.s.) stood up and asked: “O Messenger of Allah, from which of your sons?

“From this son of mine,” said he, putting his hand on Husain (a.s.).




Notice, according to Hadith, the Criteria is that the Qaim is from lineage of Imam Hussein. Nothing more, nothing less!






As regards to the Hadith, that if the Religion of God declines, the Persian reach it, that is obviously related to Rise of Qaim, as according to many traditions, when the true Religion declines, it is the Qaim who revives it.

 

[InvestigateTruth]

As regards to Hadithes that when Qaim appears, He is a Young man, there are many Hadithes that says that.
But no Hadith ever says, that the reason is because God, would keep Him young, like people of cave!

The similarities between Qaim and people of cave, according to the following Hadith, is only related to the duration of 309 years that Qaim rules. Nothing more, nothing less:

Imam Muhammad Baqir (a.s.) said:

“The Qaim will rule for 309 years equal to the number of years the folks of the cave (As-haab-e-Kahaf) remained in their cave. He would fill up the earth with justice and equity just as it would be fraught with injustice and oppression. ..."



P.S. For the sake of brevity, I post, the portion of Hadithes, that are related! It does not make sense to put a long Hadith, when the remaining is not regarding the discussion.

 

[InvestigateTruth]

As regards to comment of Mojtaba, that Baha'is say, Son of Imam Askari died, as far as I know, there is nothing in Baha'I Scriptures, that says that. However
There was a Hadith in Shia sources, which I posted


Now, the following Hadith precisely prophecied what different people say, untill, He rises:


Muhammad bin Isa from Uthman bin Isa Kilabi from Khalid bin Najih from Zurarah bin Ayyan that he said: I heard Abi Abdullah (a.s.) say:
“There is an occultation for the Qaim before his reappearance.” I asked: “Why is it so?” He replied: “He is fearful.” And he pointed towards his belly, implying that the Qaim fears for his life. Then he said: “O Zurarah; and he is that awaited one and he is the one in whose birth they shall doubt. Thus some will say: His father died heirless and some will say: He was in the womb of his mother when his father died. Some others will allege that he was born two years before the passing away of his father. And he is the Awaited one; but the Almighty Allah likes to test the Shia. It is the time when people of falsehood will fall in doubts.”


Notice according to this Hadith, some people doubt He would be born, some say He died....untill finally some say the Qaim's Father died when, He was 2 years Old!

Then the Hadith continues, after this, and says, "He is the Awaited One"

Notice that all these Prophecies came to pass. The Bab was 2 years old, when His father died, and therefore this Hadith correctly prophecied that He was the awaited One.

 

[InvestigateTruth]

Mojtaba also pointed out, that in many Hadithes, it is said that Qaim is hidden, because He fears His life, and therefore, this means He has been alive physically.


My comment:

In reality, if we think an Imam or Messenger of God literally fears His life, it would be false as, for obvious reasons, the Holy Men of God, never feared anyone, and wil not fear anyone. They are willing to sacrifice their life in the Path of God.
However, there are indeed many Hadithes that says the reason Qaim is Hidden, is because He is fearful.

So, the question is how is that possible?

I think the answer is in the Hadithes, such as the one, I posted before. The last part of the Hadith says:


" but the Almighty Allah likes to test the Shia. It is the time when people of falsehood will fall in doubts"


In another words, the Imams kept it a secret and did not reveal explicitly that the Qaim would reppear as a young man, and Messenger of God, because Allah loved to Test Shia.


It might be of interest that, according to Shia Hadithes, the Imams and Prophet spoke to people in their level of Understanding. Had they said that Qaim is spiritually alive and return in a spiritual sense, their mind could not accpet it.

The following Hadith, confirms this view:


Al-Kafi, H 15, Ch. 1, h 15

A group of our people has narrted from Ahmad ibn
Muhammad ibn ‘Isa from al-Hassan ibn Ali ibn Faddal from certain persons of our people from abu ‘Abdallah who has said the following.
"The holy Prophet never spoke to people from the height and with the full power of his intelligence. The holy Prophet (s.a.) has said, "We the community of the Prophets are commanded to speak to people up to the level of their intelligence and understanding."

 

[spirit_of_dawn]

Ever heard of the Baha'i Utopia? Well here it is: a nation ruled by the iron fist of the UHJ where people are burned to death for arson and marked like cattle for stealing:

"Should anyone intentionally destroy a house by fire, him also shall ye burn" (Baha’u’llah, The Kitabi Aqdas, p. 203)

“Exile and imprisonment are decreed for the thief, and, on the third offence, place ye a mark upon his brow so that, thus identified, he may not be accepted in the cities of God and His countries,” Baha’u’llah, The Kitabi Aqdas, pp. 35–36.
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All in the name of oneness of humanity of course.

 

[arthra]

Ever heard of the Baha'i Utopia? Well here it is: a nation ruled by the iron fist of the UHJ where people are burned to death for arson and marked like cattle for stealing:

"Should anyone intentionally destroy a house by fire, him also shall ye burn" (Baha’u’llah, The Kitabi Aqdas, p. 203)

“Exile and imprisonment are decreed for the thief, and, on the third offence, place ye a mark upon his brow so that, thus identified, he may not be accepted in the cities of God and His countries,” Baha’u’llah, The Kitabi Aqdas, pp. 35–36.
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All in the name of oneness of humanity of course.

Ever read the Kitab-i-Aqdas where this is discussed Oh Spirit of Dawn?

The details of the Bahá'í law of punishment for murder
and arson, a law designed for a future state of society, were
not specified by Bahá'u'lláh. The various details of the law,
such as degrees of offence, whether extenuating circumstances
are to be taken into account, and which of the two
prescribed punishments is to be the norm are left to the
Universal House of Justice to decide in light of prevailing
conditions when the law is to be in operation. The manner
in which the punishment is to be carried out is also left to
the Universal House of Justice to decide.
In relation to arson, this depends on what "house" is
burned. There is obviously a tremendous difference in the
degree of offence between the person who burns down an
empty warehouse and one who sets fire to a school full of
children.

87. Should ye condemn the arsonist and the murderer
to life imprisonment, it would be permissible according
to the provisions of the Book. # 62

Shoghi Effendi, in response to a question about this verse of
the Aqdas, affirmed that while capital punishment is 205
permitted, an alternative, "life imprisonment", has been
provided "whereby the rigours of such a condemnation can
be seriously mitigated". He states that "Bahá'u'lláh has
given us a choice and has, therefore, left us free to use our
own discretion within certain limitations imposed by His
law". In the absence of specific guidance concerning the
application of this aspect of Bahá'í law, it remains for the
Universal House of Justice to legislate on the matter in the
future.

p. 204

"The Kitáb-i-Aqdas" by Bahá'u'lláh"

Bahá'í World Centre
Copyright (c) 1992 by the Universal House of Justice
Copyright under the Berne Convention
All Rights Reserved

ISBN 0-85398-999-0

 

[spirit_of_dawn]

Ever read the Kitab-i-Aqdas where this is discussed Oh Spirit of Dawn?

The details of the Bahá'í law of punishment for murder
and arson, a law designed for a future state of society, were
not specified by Bahá'u'lláh. The various details of the law,
such as degrees of offence, whether extenuating circumstances
are to be taken into account, and which of the two
prescribed punishments is to be the norm are left to the
Universal House of Justice to decide in light of prevailing
conditions when the law is to be in operation. The manner
in which the punishment is to be carried out is also left to
the Universal House of Justice to decide.
In relation to arson, this depends on what "house" is
burned. There is obviously a tremendous difference in the
degree of offence between the person who burns down an
empty warehouse and one who sets fire to a school full of
children.

87. Should ye condemn the arsonist and the murderer
to life imprisonment, it would be permissible according
to the provisions of the Book. # 62

Shoghi Effendi, in response to a question about this verse of
the Aqdas, affirmed that while capital punishment is 205
permitted, an alternative, "life imprisonment", has been
provided "whereby the rigours of such a condemnation can
be seriously mitigated". He states that "Bahá'u'lláh has
given us a choice and has, therefore, left us free to use our
own discretion within certain limitations imposed by His
law". In the absence of specific guidance concerning the
application of this aspect of Bahá'í law, it remains for the
Universal House of Justice to legislate on the matter in the
future.

p. 204

"The Kitáb-i-Aqdas" by Bahá'u'lláh"

Bahá'í World Centre
Copyright (c) 1992 by the Universal House of Justice
Copyright under the Berne Convention
All Rights Reserved

ISBN 0-85398-999-0

Thank you for affirming what I quoted. Baha'i authorities can either burn arsonists at the stake alive or imprison them for life (oh what a concession, life imprisonment for burning a house). Thieves still get to be marked like cattle anyway.

Great Utopia you are looking forward to...

 

[InvestigateTruth]

Thank you for affirming what I quoted. Baha'i authorities can either burn arsonists at the stake alive or imprison them for life (oh what a concession, life imprisonment for burning a house). Thieves still get to be marked like cattle anyway.

Great Utopia you are looking forward to...

The punishment for murder, is either imprison or death penalty.
For theif, the first and second time, prison and excile, and if he commits stealing for the third time, then a mark is placed on the forhead to protect people from the thief and punishment. But the duration and nature of the mark, depends on degree of offense. Obviously there is a difference between stilling 10 dollars, or 1 millions.
All the details of these laws are explained in the Aqdas.

Now, compare these Baha'I Laws with Laws of Islam.
The punishment for theif is cutting hand.
The punishment of adultry is killing bu stone.
Drinking alchohal, has a physical punishment.

Question is, if one cannot accept the Baha'I Laws, how did they really accept Quran?
Moreover, the Laws of God are not revealed according to the desire of people, but rather they must be obeyed.

So, since, Baha'I Faith fulfills the Prophecies of Qaim, then it is proved, these Laws are from God.

Let's concentrate on the topic of Thread please.

 

[InvestigateTruth]

OP expects us to believe the false statements of Baha'u'llah and believe his words while the same person didn't have a clue about scientific matters. He claims all planets have countless aliens on them:

"Know thou that every fixed star hath its own planets, and every planet its own creatures, whose number no man can compute." (Baha’u’llah, Gleanings from the Writings of Baha’u’llah, p. 163)
​

RIP science and reason.

Whenever a Messenger of God appeared, He appointed successors after Himself to explain and interpret the verses of God to the followers.

In Baha'I Faith, Baha'u'llah appointed Abdulbaha after Himself as infallible interpreter of verses that Baha'u'llah revealed

So, if we want to understand the passage you quoted from Baha'u'llah, we must see how Abdulbahaa explaained it.

I quote Abdulbaha:

"The innumerable created things that are found in the world of existence—be they man, animal, plant, or mineral—must each be composed of elements." -Abdulbaha


Notice, that 'Minerals' are also created beings of God.

If we imagine, that Baha'u'llah is talking about Aliens, then, that is only what we imagined, maybe because we watch too much movies!

Have a good nite my friend.

You can also see some more about Baha'I Faith and science in this link:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahá'í_Faith_and_science

 

[InvestigateTruth]

Funny isn't it. You give links to other threads to prove your false summaries and then when I click on those links I see that you have been caught making false statements there too and imposing your own interpretations on Shia traditions and completely ignoring other traditions that contradict your flawed reasoning. I believe you have inherited this attitude from your leader Baha'u'llah who had a habit of continuously forging Shia traditions in a vain attempt to prove who he is (the Kitab-i Iqan is filled with these)

Since you have brought up the topic of Baha'ism again, I have a question to ask you: How in heaven's sake can you believe in a Prophet (he calls himself God) who believed in alchemy:

“For instance, consider the substance of copper. Were it to be protected in its own mine from becoming solidified, it would, within the space of seventy years, attain to the state of gold,” Baha’u’llah, The Kitab-i-Iqan, p. 157.​

If we read the book of Iqan, we see, Baha'u'llah considered alchemy "Vain" and "discarde" :


"Among the specified sciences were the science of metaphysical abstractions, of alchemy, and natural magic. Such vain and discarded learnings, this man hath regarded as the prerequisites of the understanding of the sacred and abiding mysteries of divine Knowledge.". Baha'u'llah,, Book of Iqan, p.42


As regarding if Copper can be converted to Gold, it is scientifically proven, it can!
See the link to Wikipidia I posted in my previous reply.

 

[spirit_of_dawn]

The punishment for murder, is either imprison or death penalty.
For theif, the first and second time, prison and excile, and if he commits stealing for the third time, then a mark is placed on the forhead to protect people from the thief and punishment. But the duration and nature of the mark, depends on degree of offense. Obviously there is a difference between stilling 10 dollars, or 1 millions.
All the details of these laws are explained in the Aqdas.

Now, compare these Baha'I Laws with Laws of Islam.
The punishment for theif is cutting hand.
The punishment of adultry is killing bu stone.
Drinking alchohal, has a physical punishment.

Question is, if one cannot accept the Baha'I Laws, how did they really accept Quran?
Moreover, the Laws of God are not revealed according to the desire of people, but rather they must be obeyed.

So, since, Baha'I Faith fulfills the Prophecies of Qaim, then it is proved, these Laws are from God.

Let's concentrate on the topic of Thread please.

According to Baha'u'llah any thief is marked like cattle after their third offense, regardless of what they have stolen 1 buck or million bucks. That is Baha'u'llah's law in the Aqdas. Any statement other than this coming from Baha'is is a vain attempt at whitewashing that has no basis in Baha'i scripture.

 

[spirit_of_dawn]

Whenever a Messenger of God appeared, He appointed successors after Himself to explain and interpret the verses of God to the followers.

In Baha'I Faith, Baha'u'llah appointed Abdulbaha after Himself as infallible interpreter of verses that Baha'u'llah revealed

So, if we want to understand the passage you quoted from Baha'u'llah, we must see how Abdulbahaa explaained it.

I quote Abdulbaha:

"The innumerable created things that are found in the world of existence—be they man, animal, plant, or mineral—must each be composed of elements." -Abdulbaha


Notice, that 'Minerals' are also created beings of God.

If we imagine, that Baha'u'llah is talking about Aliens, then, that is only what we imagined, maybe because we watch too much movies!

Have a good nite my friend.

You can also see some more about Baha'I Faith and science in this link:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahá'í_Faith_and_science

Oh!!! You don't say!! We needed Baha'u'llah to tell us that all planets are made of bits and pieces of rocks and minerals!! He has manifested so much knowledge, and solved so many mysteries by this statement!!!!

For your information, Shoghi's explanation clearly shows that minerals were not intended but creatures that might or might not be similar to humans:

Regarding the passage on p. 163 of the ‘Gleanings’: The creatures which Baha’u’llah states to be found on every planet cannot be considered to be necessarily similar or different from human beings on this earth. Baha’u’llah does not specifically state whether such creatures are like or unlike us. He simply refers to the fact that there are creatures on every planet. It remains for science to discover one day the exact nature of these creatures. (From a letter written on behalf of Shoghi Effendi to an individual believer, February 9, 1937)
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Have a nice day

 

[spirit_of_dawn]

If we read the book of Iqan, we see, Baha'u'llah considered alchemy "Vain" and "discarde" :


"Among the specified sciences were the science of metaphysical abstractions, of alchemy, and natural magic. Such vain and discarded learnings, this man hath regarded as the prerequisites of the understanding of the sacred and abiding mysteries of divine Knowledge.". Baha'u'llah,, Book of Iqan, p.42


As regarding if Copper can be converted to Gold, it is scientifically proven, it can!
See the link to Wikipidia I posted in my previous reply.

Oh yes, of course copper can convert to Gold, specially by the mechanism that Baha'u'llah told us: "Were it to be protected in its own mine from becoming solidified, it would, within the space of seventy years, attain to the state of gold" !!!!

 

[mojtaba]

On the contrary what Baha'is claim, the biological Son of Imam Abu Muhammad(the 11th Shia Imam) is the Qaim whose name is like the name of Prophet Muhammad and who is the Imam after Imam Abu Muhammad al-Hasan al-Askari. See the ff Hadiths,

Ibn al-Mutiwakkil has narrated from Hemyari, and Hemyari from Muhammad ibn Ahamd, and Muhammad ibn Ahmad from Abi Ghanim, who has narrated the following,
When a son named Muhammad was born to Abu Mugammad(Imam Hasan Askari), he presented the child to his companions on the third day and said,
"This is your Master After me and my Successor upon you, and this is that Qaim whom for a very long time the people will await for. Thus, when the earth will be filled with injustice and tyranny, he will rise up and fill out it with Justice and Equity.

Sources,
Bihar al-Anwar by Majlisi, v51, p6
Kamaluddin by Saduq, p431.

 

[mojtaba]

In the contrary what Baha'is claim, Imam Mahdi(the 12th Shia Imam), i.e., Qaim, was biological boy of Imam Abi Muhammad, Hasan al-Askari(the 11th Shia Imam, the father of Qaim).

Narrated to us Abu Talib Muzaffar bin Ja’far bin Muzaffar Alawi Samarqandi:
Narrated to us Ja’far bin Muhammad bin Masud from his father Muhammad bin Masud Ayyashi: Narrated to us Adam bin Muhammad Balkhi: Narrated to me Ali bin Husain bin Harun Daqqaq: Narrated to us Ja’far bin Muhammad bin Abdullah bin Qasim bin Ibrahim bin Malik Ashtar that he said: Narrated to me Yaqoob bin Manqoosh that he said:
“I went to Abi Muhammad Hasan bin Ali(Imam Hasan Askari, father of Qaim) (a.s.) to find him sitting on his usual place in his house. There was a room to his right with a curtain at its entrance. I asked the Imam: Who is the master of this affair? He replied: Lift that curtain. When I lifted the curtain I saw a boy aged eight or ten or a number around these years having a broad forehead, fair complexion, pearl-like upper lip. Soft and clear palms, broad shoulders, long knees, a mole on the right cheek, hair reaching to the forehead, came out and went on to sit in the Imam’s lap. The Imam said: This is your master.

Sources,
Bihar al-Anwar by Majlisi, vol. 52, pg. 25
Kamaluddin by Saduq, pg. 407

 

[InvestigateTruth]

Oh!!! You don't say!! We needed Baha'u'llah to tell us that all planets are made of bits and pieces of rocks and minerals!! He has manifested so much knowledge, and solved so many mysteries by this statement!!!!

For your information, Shoghi's explanation clearly shows that minerals were not intended but creatures that might or might not be similar to humans:

Regarding the passage on p. 163 of the ‘Gleanings’: The creatures which Baha’u’llah states to be found on every planet cannot be considered to be necessarily similar or different from human beings on this earth. Baha’u’llah does not specifically state whether such creatures are like or unlike us. He simply refers to the fact that there are creatures on every planet. It remains for science to discover one day the exact nature of these creatures. (From a letter written on behalf of Shoghi Effendi to an individual believer, February 9, 1937)
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Any ways, there is no proof, that, life in other forms do not exist in other planets.
As regards to Minerals, there could be other compositions of Minerals in other planets that are not found on earth. All these are signs of God, and this is what Baha'u'llah teaches.

If you search on the internet, similarly others tried to find mistakes in holy Books such as Quran to refute them. If they succeeded, they can succeed now! Today is no different!

 

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On the contrary what Baha'is claim, the biological Son of Imam Abu Muhammad(the 11th Shia Imam) is the Qaim whose name is like the name of Prophet Muhammad and who is the Imam after Imam Abu Muhammad al-Hasan al-Askari. See the ff Hadiths,

Ibn al-Mutiwakkil has narrated from Hemyari, and Hemyari from Muhammad ibn Ahamd, and Muhammad ibn Ahmad from Abi Ghanim, who has narrated the following,
When a son named Muhammad was born to Abu Mugammad(Imam Hasan Askari), he presented the child to his companions on the third day and said,
"This is your Master After me and my Successor upon you, and this is that Qaim whom for a very long time the people will await for. Thus, when the earth will be filled with injustice and tyranny, he will rise up and fill out it with Justice and Equity.

Sources,
Bihar al-Anwar by Majlisi, v51, p6
Kamaluddin by Saduq, p431.

Dear Mojtaba, are you familiar what Baha'I Scriptures say about Muhammad, Son of imam Hassan?

I quote Baha'u'llah on this:

All that thou hast heard regarding Muḥammad the son of Ḥasan—may the souls of all that are immersed in the oceans of the spirit be offered up for His sake—is true beyond the shadow of a doubt, and we all verily bear allegiance unto Him. But the imáms of the Faith have fixed His abode in the city of Jábulqá, which they have depicted in strange and marvellous signs. To interpret this city according to the literal meaning of the tradition would indeed prove impossible, nor can such a city ever be found. Wert thou to search the uttermost corners of the earth, nay probe its length and breadth for as long as God’s eternity hath lasted and His sovereignty will endure, thou wouldst never find a city such as they have described, for the entirety of the earth could neither contain nor encompass it. If thou wouldst lead Me unto this city, I could assuredly lead thee unto this holy Being, Whom the people have conceived according to what they possess and not to that which pertaineth unto Him! Since this is not in thy power, thou hast no recourse but to interpret symbolically the accounts and traditions that have been reported from these luminous souls. And, as such an interpretation is needed for the traditions pertaining to the aforementioned city, so too is it required for this holy Being. When thou hast understood this interpretation, thou shalt no longer stand in need of “transformation” or aught else.
Know then that, inasmuch as all the Prophets are but one and the same soul, spirit, name, and attribute, thou must likewise see them all as bearing the name Muḥammad and as being the son of Ḥasan, as having appeared from the Jábulqá of God’s power and from the Jábulṣá of His mercy. For by Jábulqá is meant none other than the treasure-houses of eternity in the all-highest heaven and the cities of the unseen in the supernal realm. We bear witness that Muḥammad, the son of Ḥasan, was indeed in Jábulqá and appeared therefrom. Likewise, He Whom God shall make manifest abideth in that city until such time as God will have established Him upon the seat of His sovereignty. We, verily, acknowledge this truth and bear allegiance unto each and every one of them. We have chosen here to be brief in our elucidation of the meanings of Jábulqá, but if thou be of them that truly believe, thou shalt indeed comprehend all the true meanings of the mysteries enshrined within these Tablets.
But as to Him Who appeared in the year sixty, He standeth in need of neither transformation nor interpretation, for His name was Muḥammad, and He was a descendent of the Imáms of the Faith. Thus it can be truly said of Him that He was the son of Ḥasan, as is undoubtedly clear and evident unto thine eminence. Nay, He it is Who fashioned that name and created it for Himself, were ye to observe with the eye of God.

http://www.bahai.org/library/authoritative-texts/bahaullah/gems-divine-mysteries/4



Are you familiar with the Traditions regarding Jábulqá?

In Islamic Traditions, that signifies Spritual Realm. This city does not exist in the physical plane.