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Shiv Ling??

ihsan_pno

Ihsan - Slave of Allah
My Dear Hindu Brothers and Sisters,

Can anybody clearly explain the origin of the idol Shiv Ling? How it is being formed and why?
 

Metempsychosis

Reincarnation of 'Anti-religion'
My Dear Hindu Brothers and Sisters,

Can anybody clearly explain the origin of the idol Shiv Ling? How it is being formed and why?
The origin of Idol is useless.Shiv ling represents the reproductive organ of Shiva.LOL.

It is of no use if know the philosophy behind that.It is represents formless God like allah.The pleasure of sex is probably a tiny reflection of Shiva and divine force called Sakthi.
 
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ihsan_pno

Ihsan - Slave of Allah
The origin of Idol is useless.Shiv ling represents the reproductive organ of Shiva.LOL.

It is of no use if know the philosophy behind that.It is represents formless God like allah.


Ok. My dear friend, from your reply i can understand that u r an Athiest? Ok. First i congradulate you for being an Athiest because many people are muslim as because their father and fore fathers are muslims, many ara hindus as their ancestors are hindus, u thought about the existence of God and bacame an Athiest. Ok. Can you tell me how the world and the entire universe is created???
 

Metempsychosis

Reincarnation of 'Anti-religion'
Ok. My dear friend, from your reply i can understand that u r an Athiest? Ok. First i congradulate you for being an Athiest because many people are muslim as because their father and fore fathers are muslims, many ara hindus as their ancestors are hindus, u thought about the existence of God and bacame an Athiest. Ok. Can you tell me how the world and the entire universe is created???

I am theist but I am agnostic towards creationism.Why should I worry about event of past which I can neither prove nor disprove?
 

Metempsychosis

Reincarnation of 'Anti-religion'
From the past only you can learn many things and the creation of earth proves the existence of God, Allah

I havent witnessed the creation,hence I cannot take it as proof.Thats another topic.Why shouldn't I worship Shiv ling?
 
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ihsan_pno

Ihsan - Slave of Allah
hey, you are seriously going offtopic, what allah does with Shiv Ling?

I am not going out of topic, I asked about Shiv Ling, But Anti-Religion said Shiv ling is same as Allah, Thats y i am trying to convey that Allah is different and the only one lord who is worthy of worship
 

Burning Ice

New Member
I am not going out of topic, I asked about Shiv Ling, But Anti-Religion said Shiv ling is same as Allah, Thats y i am trying to convey that Allah is different and the only one lord who is worthy of worship
oh very sorry for that, fine. i can sees a thumb down icon with the topic name, why is that? had any bad experience with any ling?
 
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Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
I am not going out of topic, I asked about Shiv Ling, But Anti-Religion said Shiv ling is same as Allah, Thats y i am trying to convey that Allah is different and the only one lord who is worthy of worship

Can't be done.

To the eyes of a Hindu, Allah is but another aspect of the Supreme Reality.

The Shiva Linga is a representation of Parashiva, which is another name for Brahman, which in English we advaitins (monists) refer to as the Supreme Reality.

To worship the Linga (which, though I am part-Shaivite myself, I do not directly do), is no different than bowing in a certain direction five times a day(something some Hindus do), or making the pilgrimage to Mecca (another thing that many Hindus do; well, not Mecca specifically, but to a special city.)
 

Mikael

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According to the Shivapurana the lingam is the representation of the formless aspect of Mahadeva, the highest deity (Shiva). There is a whole long chapter on how to make one from different materials, the mantras to be used during the work, the direction in which to face and the time of day and year to do it. It even says that if you do it right you will get worldly pleasures and long life. Gotta love it...

Of course, though, it is the same old symbol found in all ancient beliefsystems. It is the male and female force in union just like the yin-yang, the sixpointed star and alot of unnamed symbols found in rock carvngs around the globe. And as such a symbol I like it. Though I dig Shiva for being what he is...
 

ihsan_pno

Ihsan - Slave of Allah
likewise,Whatever we worship CANNOT be god.:)

How come you can tell that whatever we worship cannot be a God, Any religion can be examine by analyzing the holy scriptures of the religion, All the people in those religion belive that holy scriptures are from God, so we can start a research.

There are numerous scientific errors in Bible and in other hindu scriptures, but Holy Quran has so many scientific proofs, Imagine how come a man from arabian deser before 1430 years can tell this much of science without any scientific advancement. So there are many proofs available that Quran alone is the word of God.
 

ihsan_pno

Ihsan - Slave of Allah
Can't be done.

To the eyes of a Hindu, Allah is but another aspect of the Supreme Reality.

The Shiva Linga is a representation of Parashiva, which is another name for Brahman, which in English we advaitins (monists) refer to as the Supreme Reality.

To worship the Linga (which, though I am part-Shaivite myself, I do not directly do), is no different than bowing in a certain direction five times a day(something some Hindus do), or making the pilgrimage to Mecca (another thing that many Hindus do; well, not Mecca specifically, but to a special city.)

First you need to understand the concept of God in Hinduism as Islam,

For that you can refer to the dialogue happened between Dr. Zakir Naik and Shri Shri Ravishankar. Topic - "Concept of God in BHinduism and Islam", if you watch this you will come to know about more things, it happened in Banglore, India and lakhs of people attended the conference. I request you to watch the talk kindly first.
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend ihsan pno,


Am sure, you have not yet studied the link provided to get a response on your query.As find no proof of that.
Besides am surprised that others are bothering to discuss when you are not interested in from the beginning to know anything by showing a *THUMBS DOWN* to your query. You mind is already made up!

However if you wish to prove that you consider every one as human as yourself and ever religion leads to the same goal as the one you follow then do state what you wish to discuss threadbare instead of hiding behind what others have said and quoted.
Discuss topic only on which you have understanding and experience of.

Love & rgds
 

Metempsychosis

Reincarnation of 'Anti-religion'
How come you can tell that whatever we worship cannot be a God,
If shiv ling is not God then what muslims pray is also NOT god.
see how Muslims pray to carpets,floors,pillars,thin air and thoughts.
namaz.jpg


Muslims pray to carpets as seen above.


Some muslims worship thin air.Remember Air,thoughts,carpets,floors etc are creation,which again is different from creator.
Supplicating_Pilgrim_at_Masjid_Al_Haram._Mecca%2C_Saudi_Arabia.jpg

Any religion can be examine by analyzing the holy scriptures of the religion, All the people in those religion belive that holy scriptures are from God, so we can start a research.
first you do that.
First you need to understand the concept of God in Hinduism as Islam,
You learn about your god then you can advise others.Thanks.

For that you can refer to the dialogue happened between Dr. Zakir Naik and Shri Shri Ravishankar. Topic - "Concept of God in BHinduism and Islam", if you watch this you will come to know about more things, it happened in Banglore, India and lakhs of people attended the conference. I request you to watch the talk kindly first.
Zakir naik is a liar and Juvenile.First you learn the spelling of "Buddhism".WHy cant Zakir Naik argue with vedic scholar like Sankarcharya?
You can learn more about him here
http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Zakir_Naik
http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Rebuttals_to_Zakir_Naik
 
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