Shooting at Texas High School

[Revoltingest]

No, @Father Heathen and @Sunstone, it is not anywhere close to "almost daily". And, unfortunately, it's this type of hyperbole that injects so much emotionalism into these horrific incidents that makes having a rational conversation about the causes and solutions that much harder...just sayin'.

In the context of school shootings, you're entirely correct.
But anti-gun types will broaden it to include all mass
shootings, which are indeed far more numerous.
But are those "becoming daily", or have they always
been so frequent, but are given more news exposure?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

So Trump's plan to arm teachers didn't help?

 

[Sunstone]

In the context of school shootings, you're entirely correct.
But anti-gun types will broaden it to include all mass
shootings, which are indeed far more numerous.
But are those "becoming daily", or have they always
been so frequent, but are given more news exposure?

Nice spin.

 

[Quetzal]

In the context of school shootings, you're entirely correct.
But anti-gun types will broaden it to include all mass
shootings, which are indeed far more numerous.
But are those "becoming daily", or have they always
been so frequent, but are given more news exposure?

This is a good question and this is why I believe gun violence needs to be studied. Too bad it can't.

 

[Yerda]

America, it's time to stamp out the armed insurgency destroying your country.

 

[Revoltingest]

Nice spin.

Just undoing some prior spin by pointing out 2 ways to read the post.
And I had a relevant question.

 

[BSM1]

There have been 21 mass shootings in the US since May 1st alone, plus today's shooting. This is May 18th. That averages out to more than one per day. Those are the facts. Your ignorance in this matter is not helping anyone.

Mass Shootings | Gun Violence Archive

Not trying to split hairs but I assumed the OP was referring to school shootings. Obviously, anyone can find enough collateral information to support any position. Mea Culpea .

 

[BSM1]

In the context of school shootings, you're entirely correct.
But anti-gun types will broaden it to include all mass
shootings, which are indeed far more numerous.
But are those "becoming daily", or have they always
been so frequent, but are given more news exposure?

As has been so skillfully pointed out to me...

 

[Revoltingest]

This is a good question and this is why I believe gun violence needs to be studied. Too bad it can't.

Well it can....It's just a matter of who.
I'll bet someone has.
I didn't search because life is interfering with my even keeping up with answering alerts.

 

[Phantasman]

Did anyone see the news about the school that was saved from a shooting by an officer last Wednesday morning?

Fox reported it. Most MSM didn't.

'Things could have gone much worse': Charges filed against ex-student accused of exchanging gunfire with cop at Dixon High School

 

[Quetzal]

Well it can....It's just a matter of who.
I'll bet someone has.
I didn't search because life is interfering with my even keeping up with answering alerts.

True, I wish the government would fund research into gun violence.

 

[bobhikes]

Another school shooting.

LIVE COVERAGE: Confirmed injuries after Santa Fe HS schooting



They have the shooter in custody.

You know what's sad is the NRA is going to come out against any attempt to fix the problem offer their arm the teachers plan but never invest any of their Vast amount of money into actually arming the teachers. Several Schools agreed with that, they got no aid from the NRA. The NRA touts there training schools and yet have never offered them to any school. The NRA is not mandating that politicians support the Arming of teachers before getting there money. The NRA either doesn't care about dead students or doesn't really believe it will work. They have the money, if it actually worked there group would become far more powerful. Somebody needs to hold them to their plan.

I googled it several different ways and I can't find a dime the NRA has paid for their Arm the Teachers plan. Their is a lot of adds for it opposing other methods. It seems rather easy to pick one of the schools that want it, train their teachers, use federal and their money to get them guns and see what happens. I doubt it would cost 1 million dollars.

 

[Twilight Hue]

So Trump's plan to arm teachers didn't help?

I go for metal detectors and security at the doorways. It's about time they're installed.

 

[Twilight Hue]

True, I wish the government would fund research into gun violence.

Or why this particular generation is so mentally challenged and are incapable of controlling their emotions.

Bullying, social media overload???

 

[Quetzal]

Or why this particular generation is so mentally challenged and are incapable of controlling their emotions.

Bullying, social media overload???

This is a pretty insensitive and inaccurate comment. Trying to paint an entire generation of people based on the acts of a few? Shame on you.

 

[Sunstone]

Not trying to split hairs but I assumed the OP was referring to school shootings.

That dog won't hunt. While the OP was indeed referring to a single school shooting, you had no grounds for assuming that either @Father Heathen or I were referring only to school shootings. Indeed, had you read our posts in good faith, rather than in bad faith, it might have occurred to you that it was reasonable to suppose we were referring to all mass shootings in America. After all, that would have been the most fair minded way to interpret our statements. But you chose to interpret them in a way that allowed you to easily and conveniently criticize them. That was self-serving.

 

[Twilight Hue]

This is a pretty insensitive and inaccurate comment. Trying to paint an entire generation of people based on the acts of a few? Shame on you.

I don't think so. I've never seen such a screwed up generation ever that collectively acts the way they do. My generation is pretty screwed up as well, but wow ! Millennials so far are taking the cake.

Mind you I'm referring to the collective generation. Not individuals as there are always going to be a few who are an exception.

 

[Sunstone]

Just undoing some prior spin...

"Spin"? I presume you're talking about @Father Heathen's and my posts to the effect that mass shootings seem to be a daily or near daily occurrence now. If so, your choice of "spin" to describe them seems gratuitous and self-serving for it would seem to imply that the points made in those posts was in some sense out of line or unreasonable.

Yet, what could be more reasonable than to think of all mass shootings as falling into a single general category? The general category of "Mass Shootings"? Why would anyone think of them otherwise? "Oh, the eight murdered in Texas today are worth thinking about because they were a school shooting, but the 59 murdered in Las Vegas last fall are not worth thinking about because they were not a school shooting." That would make as little sense as your use of the word "spin" to describe Father Heathen's and my posts.

 

[Father Heathen]

Did anyone see the news about the school that was saved from a shooting by an officer last Wednesday morning?

Fox reported it. Most MSM didn't.

'Things could have gone much worse': Charges filed against ex-student accused of exchanging gunfire with cop at Dixon High School

"We have a lot of school shootings, but that's okay because occasionally they're foiled."

 

[Quetzal]

I don't think so. I've never seen such a screwed up generation ever that collectively acts the way they do. My generation is pretty screwed up as well, but wow ! Millennials so far are taking the cake.

Unquantifiable generalizations are lazy and unhelpful. I think you are making these statements based on anecdotes and prejudice, unless you have a data set to back it up?