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Should a Convicted Felon Be Allowed to Remain on the Presidential Ballot?

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Seen by those you agree with?
Plenty of people are seeing the charges and conviction against Trump as unjust. Polls and financial contributions to Trump's campaign are reflecting that. You may not agree, but that's immaterial.
Forbes is a conservative source. Please listen carefully. For Republicans it is only making a small difference. But it is making a big difference for independents. It is usually not Democrat voters or Republican voters that decide an election. It is the independent voters and it looks as if Trump may be losing a lot of them.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
Interesting how you are all the time using polls to support yourself but the second a poll is presented that you disagree with....
Most entertaining actually.

At least you can't dispute their findings.

Many people claim to have seen Elvis.
So what?

Irrelevant. Elvis seers don't influence whether Elvis comes back or not. Trump voters will bring back Trump.

Again, so what?
There are people still under Trumps spell.

And they vote. Democracy in action!

Still not enough to get a popular vote win though.

We'll see how Trump's sentencing affects people. So far, indictments, trials and a conviction have caused him to gain voters and financial support. The sentencing could only do more.
 

McBell

Unbound
At least you can't dispute their findings.
No need to dispute them.
Like I already said, the last two elections Trump was supposedly in the lead and yet still lost the popular vote.
Irrelevant.
So you did get the point.
And they vote. Democracy in action!



We'll see how Trump's sentencing affects people. So far, indictments, trials and a conviction have caused him to gain voters and financial support. The sentencing could only do more.
STILL not enough to win the popular vote.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
No need to dispute them.
Like I already said, the last two elections Trump was supposedly in the lead and yet still lost the popular vote.

So you did get the point.

STILL not enough to win the popular vote.
So says you.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
So says you.
Look at how many Republican voters there are out there. Now look at how many Democratic voters. And even worse, how many independents that there are. You need the independent voters. So do the Democrats, but the latest polls show that as long as you stick with Trump you have lost them.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
If he bans him from traveling and campaigning, that will convince me its more about politics than justice.
I do not think that a travel ban is likely. The Secret Service could be given orders to make sure to protect but to also keep him in the coutnry. That would do for security purposes. Nor is prison very likely before an appeal. But a well earned contempt of court charge could be given immediately with not appeal. I suppose he could bring out Trump each day and see if he can own up to how what he did was wrong. I can't see Trump going more than two days without toeing the line and promising to behave in his other upcoming trials.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
What makes you think that this might even be under consideration. Travel in ones job is not generally restricted by probation, the point is to know where they are at.
With the Secret Service with him 24/7 that is easily tracked. In fact when they did the raid on Mar a Lardo the knew that Trump was not there.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
What makes you think that this might even be under consideration. Travel in ones job is not generally restricted by probation, the point is to know where they are at.
:facepalm:

Did I say I think it might even be under consideration?
Did I imply it might even be under consideration?

No and no.

I replied to.....
Well it will be up to the judge to decide weather or not Trump can travel to run.

Now I may be wrong but I took that as run/campaign since running for president is currently happening.
 
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Laniakea

Not of this world
Look at how many Republican voters there are out there. Now look at how many Democratic voters. And even worse, how many independents that there are. You need the independent voters. So do the Democrats, but the latest polls show that as long as you stick with Trump you have lost them.
The latest Trump campaign donations have been from Independents who have usually stayed in the middle but are now totally fed up with the Left after the Trump conviction. It made them decide the Left is definitely not for them.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
With the Secret Service with him 24/7 that is easily tracked. In fact when they did the raid on Mar a Lardo the knew that Trump was not there.
Then why were the agents armed with AR15s ready to go? Afraid the cameras of the media that just happened to show up prior to the raid wouldn't record something dramatic?
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
The latest Trump campaign donations have been from Independents who have usually stayed in the middle but are now totally fed up with the Left after the Trump conviction. It made them decide the Left is definitely not for them.
evidence please?
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Then why were the agents armed with AR15s ready to go? Afraid the cameras of the media that just happened to show up prior to the raid wouldn't record something dramatic?
Cops carrying AR-15 s , so what in these days.
 
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