Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
Dude, go to Wiki and look up "Godwin's Law."
Your behavior here is disgusting, and my opinion of you lowers with every post. Not exactly a good strategy for convincing people you have the moral high ground.
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Should a woman have to see a sonogram before receiving an abortion?
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Your behavior here is disgusting, and my opinion of you lowers with every post. Not exactly a good strategy for convincing people you have the moral high ground.
McBell
Unbound
One, It is not murder because abortion is legal and murder is an unlawful killing.
Two, It is not a child that resides in the mothers belly. It is an embryo or fetus.
It is not a child, infant, or baby until after it is born.
Three, so you would have the unborn be the dictator, the Adolf?
One, It is not murder because abortion is legal and murder is an unlawful killing.
Two, It is not a child that resides in the mothers belly. It is an embryo or fetus.
It is not a child, infant, or baby until after it is born.
Other than points one and two, I agree with you.
I agree.
However what does this have to do with abortion?
Or are you drawing a parallel between aborting due to rape and killing children who are the result of rape?
rojse
RF Addict
If we outlawed legalised abortion, what would happen with all of the women that still want an abortion, even if it is illegal?
I do agree that some women would just follow the rule of the law, even if it means that they are stuck with a child that they did not want for the rest of their life, but what about the rest?
We have women doing their own at-home abortions, which are extremely unsafe and can have permanent health consequences. Does this not matter?
What about the increase in orphans, when the women just give birth and drop their child off at the orphanage? Where are they all going? We don't have enough foster parents now, what will happen when we need thousands upon thousands more?
What about women that are the victims of rape or incest? Are they not entitled to an abortion, even though the act of conception was illegal in these cases?
It sounds all well and good to want to criminalise abortions, but there are serious social implications behind the issue that have not been considered.
I do agree that some women would just follow the rule of the law, even if it means that they are stuck with a child that they did not want for the rest of their life, but what about the rest?
We have women doing their own at-home abortions, which are extremely unsafe and can have permanent health consequences. Does this not matter?
What about the increase in orphans, when the women just give birth and drop their child off at the orphanage? Where are they all going? We don't have enough foster parents now, what will happen when we need thousands upon thousands more?
What about women that are the victims of rape or incest? Are they not entitled to an abortion, even though the act of conception was illegal in these cases?
It sounds all well and good to want to criminalise abortions, but there are serious social implications behind the issue that have not been considered.
This thread is not about outlawing abortion. It is about making a well thought out informed choice.
McBell
Unbound
And it has still yet to be shown how viewing a sonogram would assist in that.
You look at a x-ray before you set a broken bone right? Why?
yossarian22
Resident Schizophrenic
So you don't spend $200 to have your arm wrapped in fiberglass when you don't need it
And you make an informed medical decision.
yossarian22
Resident Schizophrenic
Not really.
I mostly want to make sure that my $220 is actually helping me.
You want to hear about wasted money, ever have a broken toe? They x-ray you and say, yep it's broke and tape it. Guess what they do if it's not broke?
yossarian22
Resident Schizophrenic
Beh.
I don't go to a hospital if it is something that minor. Only major breaks, like the collar bone get me to go.
I have broken/punctured to many body parts for me to remember them all. Last one was three toes on my right foot and a finger.
All fixed with good old American Duct Tape made in china.
Rookie mistake. I was young and dumb. You can bet I have not made the same decision again.
yossarian22
Resident Schizophrenic
I could fill a book with dumb things I have done, but back to the point.
What would a sonogram even do? Whats the point
It would make the procedure a little more important than a trip to the dentist. These clinics try and tell women their child is just a few cells. They make their decision based on that assumption.
yossarian22
Resident Schizophrenic
You assume that all clinics treat the procedure the same way.
Yes I do. Good point. I just want people to realize just exactly what they are doing. Reality is to sever for some folks.
yossarian22
Resident Schizophrenic
Yep. Thats the whole theory behind magic. People see what they want too see.
McBell
Unbound
To verify how the bone is broken and how to set it.
What does this have to do with a woman seeing a sonogram before an abortion?
Nothing.
The fact still remains that you have not presented anything to show how viewing a sonogram provides some sort of information essential to the decision.
Nor have you shown how this viewing of a sonogram is anything other than a sad attempt at eliciting an emotional reaction.
ladyhawke
Active Member
Now your making assumptions, why do you think women don't know whats going on in their own bodies?. We aren't that naive and the doctors who perform these procedures are generally very open about what will happen to you if you ask questions.As i said before having a sonnagram wouldn't change anyones mind if an abortion is what they want its just emotional blackmail.
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
If a woman's seeking an abortion, she already knows she's pregnant.
Exactly what medical information do you think forcing her to view a sonogram provides?
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