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Should art get government subsidies ...

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
In general, public funds should be used to improve the quality of life for the people within a government's jurisdiction. That includes mental/social as well as the physical (infrastructure, transportation, services).

So my answer is yes, subsidize away.
 

JohnLeo

Member
... or should the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) be abolished?

Yes it should because following a strict interpretation of our constitution it is illegal. Where in the constitution is the government authotized to do this? Nowhere. It violates the tenth amendment.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
In general, public funds should be used to improve the quality of life for the people within a government's jurisdiction.
Some might argue that, in general, public funds should be used to secure the quality of life for the people within a government's jurisdiction.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
While I think art is very important culturally, I think it should only be subsidized when there is actually money to spare.
 

Alex_G

Enlightner of the Senses
Ye i think as a rule art warrants some level of support, because not all that is of value in this world thrives or even survives in the capitalist framework that dominates, of which many art institutions and organisations are perfect examples. How much however is another question, perhaps more difficult to answer.
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
And, to be fair, I think its true that science benefits a far larger segment of society in a far more substantive way.

And, to be fair, without art, the legacy of the sciences would vanish like dust in the wind. Where would we be without the study of the cave paintings to tell the stories of how humans discovered the uses of fire?

I don't think the two are mutually exclusive. I think both are complementary and need each other to allow a community to blossom. It would be unfair of me to see a lack of poetry in the sciences much as it is unfair to see the lack of quantitative analysis in the arts.
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
:eek:

Does it therefore follow that I should be taxed to subsidize the gardening?

I think the funds should be reappropriated, tbh. I admit I'm biased. I think nothing unworthy of the sciences - I was going to be a chemical engineer for heaven's sake - but I disagree with the notion that the arts are less important to a society than the sciences are.
 

Shermana

Heretic
... or should the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) be abolished?

If its goal is to bolster a political party or agenda, then most certainly, the government should not be using funds to further the interests of the ruling regime under the guise of "art". Otherwise, how do I apply for a grant to make a mural depicting the Gospels from a Jewish perspective? Heck, I want to make a Mural or Stage play depicting my favorite lesser known books like Acts of Peter, somehow I doubt they'll consider it.

The NEA Shows Its Politics | The Moral Liberal

Many delegates wore Obama campaign buttons and T-shirts and sported banners with messages such as “You are our knight in shining armor.” The official NEA newspaper, called “RA Today” and published every day during the week-long convention, featured a very political full-page endorsement of Obama headlined “Do your part and pledge to be an educator for Obama today!”

In preparation for the convention, NEA leaders had been urging their members to hold house parties to teach their friends why Obama deserves their votes. House parties were one of the successful tactics Obama used to win his election in 2008.

The NEA convention passed its usual scores of anti-parent, anti-school-choice, pro-feminist, pro-homosexual resolutions that morph into the NEA’s Legislative Program. This authorizes the highly-paid NEA staff to lobby Congress, state legislatures, education departments, and school boards to adopt NEA policies.

I am surprised that Conservatives aren't already trying to get it shut down.
 
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MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
If its goal is to bolster a political party or agenda, then most certainly, the government should not be using funds to further the interests of the ruling regime under the guise of "art". Otherwise, how do I apply for a grant to make a mural depicting the Gospels from a Jewish perspective? Heck, I want to make a Mural or Stage play depicting my favorite lesser known books like Acts of Peter, somehow I doubt they'll consider it.

The NEA Shows Its Politics | The Moral Liberal

Oh yeah. Phyllis Schlafly. Her blog post on the issue doesn't surprise me.

I am surprised that Conservatives aren't already trying to get it shut down.

Politicians have been trying for a long while. For a while in the '90s, we were looking at the complete demolishing of it when appropriations were cut in half under Clinton.

Yes, Clinton. So this isn't just a conservative's wet dream to abolish the NEA.
 

MoonWater

Warrior Bard
Premium Member
How could the NEA be considered "anti-parent and "anti-school choice"? And why use "pro-feminist" like it's a bad thing?
 

Shermana

Heretic
Oh yeah. Phyllis Schlafly. Her blog post on the issue doesn't surprise me.


The information is the same regardless who the messenger is. Huff Post:

NEA Endorses Obama's Bid for Second Term


Politicians have been trying for a long while. For a while in the '90s, we were looking at the complete demolishing of it when appropriations were cut in half under Clinton.

Yes, Clinton. So this isn't just a conservative's wet dream to abolish the NEA.

Clinton was probably upset he couldn't personally invite female artists over to see who gets the funds.
 
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