I think your misunderstanding me, Noaidi was using Christianity as an example of why Christians shouldnt make them a part of our religion because of the whole fear of hell, I was using this as an example to show that even if it was a purely atheistic household the whole fear of "AM I wasting my life or deluded" would still be at the back of the ex-athiests mind because of his parents conditioning I was trying to show that no matter what the belief it could still have I negative effect.
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Im not making this kind of a comparison at all? where did you get this from?
See, that is what I was talking about. There is no comparison between the fear of hell that some people teach children to have and the anxieties of perhaps having chosen the wrong belief about God.
The first is often enough crippling for life. The second is usually temporary, minor and even healthy.
Fear is not a sort of poison
I beg to strongly disagree. It is indeed a major poison, and one not sufficiently recognized as such.
some Fear can be really really good, aka the fear to not punch the lion in the face to use an extreme example.
That is in fact the issue. Fear should be reserved for extreme danger. Fear of hell is probably a bad thing
even if we take teachings about Hell at face value. After all, it is courage and love that make a person better, not fear.
Like I said no matter what religious view there is there will always be some kind of fear that will be pushed along with it,
Gosh, that is certainly not true, and by a long shot.
It would be terrible if it were!
even if we dont push our faith onto our kids that doesnt stop the possibility of there being the kind of fear that you describe, for example.
Actually, I will have to directly disagree here. It is my personal conviction (albeit one that is not sufficiently demonstrated yet) that it is in fact
impossible for kids to acquire anything similar to the destructive fear of hell that plagues so many people these days, if they only have a steady and consistent supply of loving care and communication while they grow up.
I disagree with Noaidi about where exactly the root cause of that fear comes. He associates it with religion itself, or at least with the pressure to adhere to one. I think the whole problem is being taught to have fear as a matter of being a "proper" person. In that sense, it doesn't even really have much to do with religion, although some people do indeed have a poor religious understanding and in fact believe that it is their duty to instill fear of God and/or of Hell into their children.
Which is a crying, revolting shame, of course.
A new atheist may be scared for his parents that they are deluding themselves on their religion, living in supression to a make believe God, not living to their full potiential.
Scared? Maybe if his parents are drooling psychos or something, I guess. Certainly not simply due to disagreements about the existence of God.
