Should Christians Be Keeping the Sabbath?

[Yes]

”Dividing wall of hostility”? You said “dividing wall between Jews and Gentiles” ”the ceremonial works” is NOT “the dividing wall between Jews and Gentiles” that Paul mentioned in

Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who made both one, and brake down the middle wall of partition,

This “dividing wall” was in reference to the temple where the Jews and Gentiles were separated by “the middle wall”.

Please read and understand this:

The barrier or the “middle wall” that separates the Jews and Gentiles had been broken down in Christ. Before and during Christ’s earthly ministry the Jews and Gentile proselytes to Judaism were supposed to worship God in the same temple without a “middle wall” prophesied in Isaiah 56:7, but there was a barrier or the middle wall and on other side of the this “middle wall” is the Court of the Gentiles” and this is the one that the Lord Jesus cleared in Mark 11:15-16.

The dividing wall being destroyed is ABOUT JESUS.

The Jews were blood related to Abraham.
NO ONE, NOT EVEN THE JEWS WHO ARE BLOOD RELATED TO ABRAHAM are saved for that anymore.

NO ONE is made clean by getting circumcised in the flesh anymore.

The Gentiles were UNCLEAN people because they did NOT circumcise their flesh and do various external washings the Jews used to do. The Gentiles were unclean because they did not adhere to the dietary laws as the Jews did.

NO ONE has to do those ceremonial works to make themselves clean anymore.

ONLY faith in the shed blood of Jesus can clean us now.

 

[JM2C]

The Jews used to have to justify themselves...they had to make themselves clean, just to worship God.

The Gentiles did not do these things, they were dead in their sins and without God in the world.

The Gentiles were called unclean people because they did not do the works the Jews did to clean themselves.


All the ceremonial works the Jews did to clean themselves were teaching tools, they were a shadow of what was coming, Jesus Christ.


Now, NO ONE has to do those works anymore to make themselves justified and clean before God, for the only way to make ourselves clean now is by the blood of Jesus cleaning us.

You don't seems to understand question, do you? Let me repeat myself again. Please tell me what is the difference between Christianity and Judaism base on the bible and not on opinion only.

 

[Yes]

I am trying to help you. You are merely repeating yourself and being defensive.

 

[Yes]

You don't seems to understand question, do you? Let me repeat myself again. Please tell me what is the difference between Christianity and Judaism base on the bible and not on opinion only.

You need to read what I posted to you. You need to read it and ADDRESS WHAT I SAID.

Please, do it now.

 

[Yes]

You can’t tell Judaism from Christianity, can you?

The Israel of God's heart are ALL people who believe they are made clean by the shed blood of Jesus, and who obey Jesus' teachings.

What don't you get about circumcision and blood relations being NOTHING?

 

[JM2C]

You need to read what I posted to you. You need to read it and ADDRESS WHAT I SAID.

Please, do it now.

Christianity and Judaism and NOT Gentiles and Judaism

 

[Yes]

Christianity and Judaism and NOT Gentiles and Judaism

Then you have no idea who Jesus is and what he did.

 

[JM2C]

I am trying to help you. You are merely repeating yourself and being defensive.

You are unresponsive. You need to focus on the question that is in front of you. You are preaching most of the time. Stop preaching and answer the question.

 

[Yes]

You are unresponsive. You need to focus on the question that is in front of you. You are preaching most of the time. Stop preaching and answer the question.

What do you think about circumcision and burnt offerings, etc?

 

[JM2C]

What do you think about circumcision and burnt offerings, etc?

So, you have no idea what is the difference between Christianity and Judaism but you disagree with me when I said “Christianity is a belief by itself and not in any way should be a part or a sect of any other beliefs, or should not mix with either paganism or Judaism/Law of Moses.”

Excellent points, except I do not agree with the part where you said Christianity was not a part of Judaism.

up to this point you still have no explanation on why you are disagreeing with me. You can't tell the diff bet Judaism and Christianity, can you?

 

[Yes]

So, you have no idea what is the difference between Christianity and Judaism but you disagree with me when I said “Christianity is a belief by itself and not in any way should be a part or a sect of any other beliefs, or should not mix with either paganism or Judaism/Law of Moses.”

You did not answer my question.

up to this point you still have no explanation on why you are disagreeing with me. You can't tell the diff bet Judaism and Christianity, can you?

You are lost on this. Do you know what to do now? Humble yourself.

 

[metis]

The Jews without faith were cut off. Obeying the ceremonial laws were not based on faith. A Jew could obey the ceremonial law but not have any faith in God.

God cut off those Jews before Jesus started his earthly ministry.

Really?

 

[Yes]

Really?

Really.

When Jesus started his earthly ministry, it was already too late.

Luke 19:42 and said, "If you, even you, had only known on this day what would bring you peace--but now it is hidden from your eyes.

The Jews who did not have faith were cut off and hardened by God so that they could not hear Jesus and repent. JESUS CAME FIRST FOR THOSE WHO ALREADY BELONGED TO GOD BY FAITH.

Mark 4:12 so that, "'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!'"

Luke 19:41 As he approached Jerusalem and saw the city, he wept over it

John 12:40 "He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn--and I would heal them."

Romans 11:8 as it is written: "God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that could not see and ears that could not hear, to this very day."

Romans 11:7 What then? What the people of Israel sought so earnestly they did not obtain. The elect among them did, but the others were hardened,

This scripture SAYS they were broken off; broken off is cut off.

Romans 11:20 Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but tremble.

 

[Yes]

It makes no difference anymore if someone is blood related to Abraham.

There is a New Covenant.

If ANYONE wants to be saved, they must go through Jesus.

Circumcision of the flesh is now mutilation of the flesh.

The various external washings the Jews used to do are now just baths

The dietary laws are just about a diet, and all food is good.

A special day is just a day.

The sacrifice of an animal is abhorable.

 

[Yes]

The New Covenant is through Jesus' blood.

Jesus' blood makes us clean.

Jesus is the Sacrificial Lamb of God who takes away our sins once and for all.

We are circumcised in the heart by the Holy Spirit.

 

[metis]

Really.

When Jesus started his earthly ministry, it was already too late.

Luke 19:42 and said, "If you, even you, had only known on this day what would bring you peace--but now it is hidden from your eyes.

The Jews who did not have faith were cut off and hardened by God so that they could not hear Jesus and repent. JESUS CAME FIRST FOR THOSE WHO ALREADY BELONGED TO GOD BY FAITH.

Mark 4:12 so that, "'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!'"

Luke 19:41 As he approached Jerusalem and saw the city, he wept over it

John 12:40 "He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn--and I would heal them."

Romans 11:8 as it is written: "God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that could not see and ears that could not hear, to this very day."

Romans 11:7 What then? What the people of Israel sought so earnestly they did not obtain. The elect among them did, but the others were hardened,

This scripture SAYS they were broken off; broken off is cut off.

Romans 11:20 Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but tremble.

And do you believe everything you read? Has it ever crossed your mind that what you are reading are rather subjective interpretations written decades after the supposed "facts" they cover? Are you one who treats the Bible like one would an idol?

What you have posted is a nonsensical, anti-Semitic stereotype that has caused so many innocent people to be murdered and killed over the years, so you have well bought into the NAZI philosophy that God hates Jews.

Thank God most churches today don't buy into that bigoted clap-trap.

 

[metis]

It makes no difference anymore if someone is blood related to Abraham.

There is a New Covenant.

If ANYONE wants to be saved, they must go through Jesus.

Circumcision of the flesh is now mutilation of the flesh.

The various external washings the Jews used to do are now just baths

The dietary laws are just about a diet, and all food is good.

A special day is just a day.

The sacrifice of an animal is abhorable.

Then let me suggest that you take your Bible, rip out the "O.T." and throw it into the garbage. It must be entirely wrong according to you since the Torah and Tanakh repeatedly claim that it is God who gave us the Law, so either trash the "O.T." or just call God a "Liar".

Pathetic.

 

[Yes]

And do you believe everything you read? Has it ever crossed your mind that what you are reading are rather subjective interpretations written decades after the supposed "facts" they cover? Are you one who treats the Bible like one would an idol?

You decide for yourself...

What has worth?

Is the blood of animals more than the blood of God's Son?

Is a special day more than God's Son?

Is the blood of humans more than the blood of God's Son?

Is a diet more than the blood of God's Son?

You hold onto teaching tools and shadows.

What you have posted is a nonsensical, anti-Semitic stereotype that has caused so many innocent people to be murdered and killed over the years, so you have well bought into the NAZI philosophy that God hates Jews.

Thank God most churches today don't buy into that bigoted clap-trap.

You like the false 'Christian' churches that make idols of the people who claim Jewish ancestry.

If you want to be reconciled to God, then you have to go through Jesus.

 

[metis]

You decide for yourself...

What has worth?

Is the blood of animals more than the blood of God's Son?

Is a special day more than God's Son?

Is the blood of humans more than the blood of God's Son?

Is a diet more than the blood of God's Son?

You hold onto teaching tools and shadows.


You like the false 'Christian' churches that make idols of the people who claim Jewish ancestry.

If you want to be reconciled to God, then you have to go through Jesus.

As Gandhi said about some self-proclaimed "Christians", "they elevated the man and forgot his message".

Maybe if you read the Parable of the Sheep and Goats in Matthew 25, you'll understand.

 

[Yes]

Then let me suggest that you take your Bible, rip out the "O.T." and throw it into the garbage. It must be entirely wrong according to you since the Torah and Tanakh repeatedly claim that it is God who gave us the Law, so either trash the "O.T." or just call God a "Liar".

Pathetic.

ALL the Law and Prophets spoke about Jesus.

Notice you cannot address the powerful words of Jesus that I spoke to you.

Go ahead, try to address what I posted.

You merely deny, ignore, and attack personally.