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Should drag shows be used as a teaching tool in schools?

MD

qualiaphile
No. We should be taught about sexual identity and what it means to LGBT.. to identify how they choose. Maybe high school can incorporate sexual continuum education in their "sex-ed" classes.

Drag shows Id say is more college. Id say just like we have chess clubs and such, events are extracurrecular activities. It may confuse students since anyone can be a drag queen but not everyone identifies as one.

Education first and foremost to get rid of steretypes and bias. Sad to say this includes religious norms and bias that stiffen a persons right to be himself.

I agree with this, drag shows should be more for college or maybe upper high school years. It's a bit much for middle school.
 

Timothy Bryce

Active Member
I agree with this, drag shows should be more for college or maybe upper high school years. It's a bit much for middle school.

Agreed. In principle, I'd say this is inappropriate subject matter to be imposed on minors as gender studies seems to involve enough controversy for one to concede that there's too much subjectivity (and quackery) involved.

But, realistically, kids even younger than middle school know all about this **** anyway. Usually a lot more than what some curriculum would teach. I know I did. It's actually not that complicated.
 

PeteC-UK

Active Member
Hi Folks...

Hmmm - Id say that anything unnatural should be avoided altogether and NEVER promoted in any way shape or form as being "normal" when it clearly it not...We should not encourage children and minors to adopt or embrace such things at all and in all these gender sexual issues - we bow and accept all manner of unnatural things then pass them on to our children as if it was normal behaviour...Its NOT normal and never was - society has become deluded and wholly confused abnd we are FAILING our children severely nor helping them at all.....

Drag shows - are a way to RIDICULE the unnatural behaviour - they are SARCASM in the extreme.. They literally mock and make fun of the confusion in society.....This may be humorous but still it only ADDS to societies confusion and all this sexual identity rubbish should be kept well away from children altogether.......Society Im afraid on the whole - off down completely the wrong path here with all this sexual freedom malarky...Men SHOULD be men and women SHOULD be women and each should be taught what is expected of them (regarding sexual identity) out in the natural world - nothing more nothing less...we certainly should NOT be encouraging them toward any sexual identity other than their NATURAL sexual identity and indeed should protect their innocence in such things and simply not allow the world to corrupt THEM and the society they will become, as it has already corrupted US and our society we now allow....We are indeed off on entirely the wrong direction here and all this sexual confusion for our children will only deepen the more we embrace unnatural things....
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
No. Not ever. I would take my kid out of that school immediately if they did such a thing. There are more relevant things to do at school than to decide if Burt looks good in a dress.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
No. Schools need to stick with English, Mathmatics, History, and Science like they were originally designed to be.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Just the basics like Anatomy and the body functions. Health and Science.

I kinda think a school is a great opportunity to help people learn about useful life skills, about things like how to look after themselves and keep healthy (good diet etc), how to do tax returns, whatever.
 

Monk Of Reason

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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Hi Folks...

Hmmm - Id say that anything unnatural should be avoided altogether and NEVER promoted in any way shape or form as being "normal" when it clearly it not...We should not encourage children and minors to adopt or embrace such things at all and in all these gender sexual issues - we bow and accept all manner of unnatural things then pass them on to our children as if it was normal behaviour...Its NOT normal and never was - society has become deluded and wholly confused abnd we are FAILING our children severely nor helping them at all.....

Drag shows - are a way to RIDICULE the unnatural behaviour - they are SARCASM in the extreme.. They literally mock and make fun of the confusion in society.....This may be humorous but still it only ADDS to societies confusion and all this sexual identity rubbish should be kept well away from children altogether.......Society Im afraid on the whole - off down completely the wrong path here with all this sexual freedom malarky...Men SHOULD be men and women SHOULD be women and each should be taught what is expected of them (regarding sexual identity) out in the natural world - nothing more nothing less...we certainly should NOT be encouraging them toward any sexual identity other than their NATURAL sexual identity and indeed should protect their innocence in such things and simply not allow the world to corrupt THEM and the society they will become, as it has already corrupted US and our society we now allow....We are indeed off on entirely the wrong direction here and all this sexual confusion for our children will only deepen the more we embrace unnatural things....

I wanna pick this a part. Since we are not talking about same-sex sex, we arent talking about idolism, what is morally wrong for a man to dress like a woman?

Think about it. Pretene Im straight. I wear jeans all the time (when years ago women couldnt; bible rules). I got my hair cut. I just might wear baseball like hats often. Chuck the jewley and lower my voice. Then I perform like a guy when Im a girl.

I am all woman. 100 percent.

What if I were a flamboyant gay man? How would your amswer change, and why?

What makes a dress female and pants male?

Are you sure you are not talking about people doing the shows not the drag shows itself?

If all straight people did the drag show, what is morally wrong?

If all GLBTQIA and S did the drag show what is morally wrong?

What is unnatural aboutbdrag shows?

Wouldnt that run similar to letting your children watch murder shows knowing the actor is t a murderer. Even seeing a beautifu romance threatre show realizing that guy that kissed a girl was Acting but in Reality he is gay.

What is biblical wrong with dressing as another gender from theatrical entertainment?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Obviously many didn't read the article, or they would know that the drag shows are for educational purposes and for drama and cosmetology students, who would legitimately benefit from such things.
No. We should be taught about sexual identity and what it means to LGBT.. to identify how they choose.
They choose their sexuality and gender no more than heterosexual cisgender people do.
I'm just baffled why cosmetology and drama studies are singled out.
As a card carying member of the International Thespian Society, it's because we are the uber-geeks of high school! (or was, anyways, in my case - haven't been in high school for a minute now and lost my card some years ago)
I'm unwilling to dignify the delusion of gender theory to begin with by pretending to have a serious discussion about it; I just mentioned it and my opposition to it in order to give reason to my answer of 'no'. Additionally, as they say, one should never argue with a fool, lest the fool bring him down to his level and beat him with experience.
I love it when I have to do nothing to combat hatred except stand here.
Hmmm - Id say that anything unnatural should be avoided altogether and NEVER promoted in any way shape or form as being "normal" when it clearly it not...We should not encourage children and minors to adopt or embrace such things at all and in all these gender sexual issues - we bow and accept all manner of unnatural things then pass them on to our children as if it was normal behaviour...Its NOT normal and never was - society has become deluded and wholly confused abnd we are FAILING our children severely nor helping them at all.....
History, anthropology, sociology, biology, and psychology disagree with you.
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
I'm unwilling to dignify the delusion of gender theory to begin with by pretending to have a serious discussion about it

As a Catholic, you believe
  • a man walked on water;
  • raised himself from the dead;
  • that the Roman Catholic Church still has moral authority in light of the global paedophile cover-up scandal.
You are the last person who should be labelling other peoples' positions a 'delusion'.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
I particularly love the suggestion to refer to the kids as "comrade". Geepers, where have I heard that before? One does have to remember that this "toolkit" was designed by the ultra left wing Alberta Teachers Association which exists in a deeply conservative province in Canada.

Just some background here. Alberta has voted Conservative for the last several decades, but a year ago, in a fit of disgust propelled the highly unexpected election of the NDP (Socialist light) party to victory. Already Albertan's are having buyers remorse and it is almost a certainty that the next time they head to the polls the NDP will be sent back to the Twilight Zone.... along with a great many of their policies and programs.

Voting history:

The province has been ruled by four "dynasties": the Liberal Party (1905–1921); the United Farmers of Alberta (1921–1935), the Social Credit Party (1935–1971), and the Progressive Conservative (PC) Association (1971–2015). No minority government has ever been elected.


My take on this is that the fledgling and soon to be forgotten NDP government is trying to cram through as much social change in the short window of opportunity they have which will almost guarantee their removal from power in the future and for the foreseeable future. I suspect this "toolkit" will be one of the first casualties of the coming Conservative backlash.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
My take on this is that the fledgling and soon to be forgotten NDP government is trying to cram through as much social change in the short window of opportunity they have which will almost guarantee their removal from power in the future and for the foreseeable future.
At least someone cares enough to try.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
New Obviously many didn't read the article, or they would know that the drag shows are for educational purposes and for drama and cosmetology students, who would legitimately benefit from such things.

Please be direct. What are you saying to me.

They choose their sexuality and gender no more than heterosexual cisgender people do.

Do you mean -we- dont choose our identity?

I chose my identity because I know as a lesbian that is part of who I am. So my choice to identify with this more than just gender is a huge choice I am glad I did. It makes me feel comfortable with myself and with whom I relate.

A lot of LGBIA community find it hard to find their identity because unless they see themselves as gender fluid or sonthe term is called, there is a strict sociatal structure of who is male and who is female. I left transgender out because my identity is chosen. Its not depended on what people say: I a woman. Im gay. Im a teacher. etc. Its how - I choose - to relate these words and meaning to myself. so....

No. We should be taught about sexual identity and what it means to LGBT.. to identify how they choose.

We should be taught about sexual identity so we are comfortable to identify as we choose. If this is wrong, then my cousin transgender would feel she has no right or choice to transition to be herself. She should have the right to identify as she chooses.

So I have no clue what you are disagreeing with. Thats my stance. It should be education in general.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
At least someone cares enough to try.
It might work in a region that is considerably more "liberal" to begin with. The policies the NDP are putting forward is creating a tsunami of discontent as the grassroots reacts to too much, too soon. It ain't going to be pretty. I know it sounds counter-intuitive but policies like this new "toolkit" could actually set change back once Alberta comes to its senses. As an example, think of how policies like this would go over in the most conservative areas of the USA. (Not well, I'd assume.)
 
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