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Should I Become A Jehovah's Witness?

Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
I think these days they are a bit more lenient with shunning. I’m sure some families still do it but I’ve known of people who have been disfellowshipped and they haven’t been shunned so I think they may be leaving it up to people to decide whether or not they want to shun, but in the day, it was heavily encouraged to shun.
The worst thing is the lack of accountability when bringing in “new light” - people have suffered significant emotional/psychological damage from shunning and I wonder where the official statement or compensation is for the people who have been harmed?
There was also the time when they used scripture to justify not reporting child sexual abuse disclosures to police and disencouraged parents from reporting because, “you shouldn’t take your brother (in religion) to court.” But they would encourage their followers to snitch on each other for having sex outside marriage or being seen on a date without a chaperone or wearing a short skirt but they couldn’t “snitch” to police regarding child abuse.
It was a shambles!
Shunning is still a thing. I am shunned because I disassociated myself from them.

The group doesn't care to seriously acknowledge the implication of their "new light " or that if they keep getting new light then that means that they dont have the truth. JWs dont even know, and wont even listen to the Australian Royal Commission which showed that JWs were covering sexual abuse. They generally say that any negatives said about them are satans lies and that they are being attacked.

It is quite a hypocritical religion.
 

Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis

Wherenextcolumbus

Well-Known Member
Shunning is still a thing. I am shunned because I disassociated myself from them.

The group doesn't care to seriously acknowledge the implication of their "new light " or that if they keep getting new light then that means that they dont have the truth. JWs dont even know, and wont even listen to the Australian Royal Commission which showed that JWs were covering sexual abuse. They generally say that any negatives said about them are satans lies and that they are being attacked.

It is quite a hypocritical religion.

When all else fails… blame satan!
I’m sorry to hear you are shunned. Luckily, they are a global minority and there’s a big wide world out here full of people who are more reasonable
 

Wherenextcolumbus

Well-Known Member
Yeah, its still a thing. People lose families because of it. Its quite sad and shows that the love they claim to have is superficial.

“Love” that is extremely conditional is very damaging. Believe me I know because I have several narcissists in my family - I experienced that “hot” and “cold” “love” for most of my life. I believe it gave me PTSD symptoms
 

Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
When all else fails… blame satan!
I’m sorry to hear you are shunned. Luckily, they are a global minority and there’s a big wide world out here full of people who are more reasonable
Meh, its their loss. I hardly ever think of them because I never had family tied to the group besides my mothers distant cousin.

Funny enough, at the beginning of this month members from my former congregation walked past my house preaching. Most ignored me besides one (who is kinda a rebel) but she just smiled and didnt talk to me. Later on i get a message from an elder giving me the Return to Jehovah Brochure. He asked if he could visit relating to it, but i said that I have moved on with my life and am at peace and happier than I have ever been. The last message he sent was odd because it was a link to children using social media. Anyway, I have fond memories of my adventures in the group but they are in my past. Shunning doesnt affect me.
 

Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
“Love” that is extremely conditional is very damaging. Believe me I know because I have several narcissists in my family - I experienced that “hot” and “cold” “love” for most of my life. I believe it gave me PTSD symptoms
I am sure it has given you such symptoms, especially when its family. They make you doubt your existence, such as what you think, what you feel and even what actually happened in your past. I myself had ptsd, and I think I still do because when I met the JWs recently from my old congregation my body had a visceral reaction, because my legs started to shake and I felt funny. Best to be wary of such people and stay away IMO.
 

Wherenextcolumbus

Well-Known Member
I am sure it has given you such symptoms, especially when its family. They make you doubt your existence, such as what you think, what you feel and even what actually happened in your past. I myself had ptsd, and I think I still do because when I met the JWs recently from my old congregation my body had a visceral reaction, because my legs started to shake and I felt funny. Best to be wary of such people and stay away IMO.

I’m glad to hear the shunning doesn’t affect you.
And I agree. I don’t have any contact with several families members and I’m better off for it
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
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Compare the benefits to the cost. You'll need to conform to a set of constricting rules, meaning that many of the options available to you now will be off the table and many decisions will be made for you. You might prefer not having to make as many decisions such as choosing how to dress

You'll acquire a community, but you don't need that religion or any religion to do that.

You'll be expected to associate preferentially with other JWs.

You may be expected to go door-to-door for them. You'll almost cetainly be required to give them money regularly.

People will view you as belonging to a cult.

You'll risk shunning if you change your mind, but I don't know how much of a negative that would be unless it included family members or came after so many years of inclusion that your social network was mostly or exclusively other JWs.
Cult is just another word for sect
Disagree. The Presbyterians are a sect but not a cult. The Branch Davidians were both.

JWs don't check off as many items on the cult checklist as the Branch Davidians, but come a lot closer than the Presbyterians.
  1. Absolute authoritarianism without accountability
  2. Zero tolerance for criticism or questions
  3. Lack of meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget
  4. Unreasonable fears about the outside world that often involve evil conspiracies and persecutions
  5. A belief that former followers are always wrong for leaving and there is never a legitimate reason for anyone else to leave
  6. Abuse of members
  7. Records, books, articles, or programs documenting the abuses of the leader or group
  8. Followers feeling they are never able to be “good enough”
  9. A belief that the leader is right at all times
  10. A belief that the leader is the exclusive means of knowing “truth” or giving validation
The JWs might tend toward the other six items. I can't say.

I'm sure that they are authoritarian but might feel accountable to obey the law.

Their tolerance for criticism and questions might be more than zero, but likely not much more.

Abuse of members is subjective unless it goes as far as shaming or inappropriate physical contact. I'm not aware whether the latter is relevant to the JWs.

With 7, 9 and 10, we might need to substitute the governing board for leader.

I highlighted number 4 because of my experience with JWs and their extreme nihilism for society. In my experience, they almost all see the world as a horrible place needing rescue, and they alone are the antidote. I lost the interest of the last JWs at my door when I told them although I was aware that though many lives were miserable, that my world and that of most of the people around me was pretty nice. I'm not exaggerating when I say that at that point and without further discussion, they politely said goodbye and left.
You’re right they do still promote shunning as part of their official teachings, which is awful for the people born into it who don’t have a support system outside of it
Awful, perhaps, but a helpful transition. A shunned JW will simply have to do like the rest of us non-JWs have already done - begin associating with other kinds of people and building a social support system outside of that religion.
 
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