Should Israel be annihilated?

[Godobeyer]

And vice-versa, right?


Jews are not allowed by law to live in the WB or GS, but Muslims are very much allowed to live in Israel, and roughly 1 & 1/2 million do, and they could leave any time they want. So, maybe it's time for the Muslims to also clean up their own act, right?

there are some colonises of Jews are banned for Muslims . right ?

in WB Israel suppose make a deal to retreat from them and give them to Palestinians, so next goverment of Israel break the deal of previous goverment , do you know that ?

I am not against Jews living with Muslims , i am against minority of Jews abusing Muslims by living with them in WB , do you get my point ?

if you don't get my point watch the reportage IsraelvsIsrael.



in matter of citizenship, NOW , let's say Iran or Yeman or Morroco or Tunisia , in these countries as i know the Jews had equal rights to Muslims . and they are protected exactly as the Muslims .

Both need to "reboot" on what they're doing.

agreed .

 

[Godobeyer]

When I had to bring my daughter to the hospital, she was treated by an Arab doctor. That night there were more than a few groups of Arabs that came for treatment.

If i am doctor and i find sick Jew , i will not hesitate to treat him . it's humanity duty and my religious duty .

The only thing holding back Israeli Arabs is that once in a while, they decide to help their brothers on the WB and Gaza.

I don't understand your point here

Is that true? Earlier this year, the Druze were in the news because Israel wants to build them towns to live in so that they can have regular electricity and water and the Druze denied them. Israel isn't building towns only for Jews, Israel is only building towns for those that aren't trying to kill them.

do you mean Druze don't want from Israel to build them homes ?

what about the rest of Muslims and Christians ? did Israel built homes/towns to them ?

what you mean "Israel is building town for those that aren't trying to kill them " , do you mean Israel had nation of killers "Israeli Arabs" so they don't deserve to build them homes ?

It all comes back to the same thing. When the PA and Hamas keep disseminating anti-Israel propaganda to their constituents, they will naturally be aggressive towards Israel. And as long as they are acting aggressively towards Israel, Israel can't relax its stance on them. The only way out of it is for people like YOU to call on your governments to get the PA and Hamas to stop encouraging violence.

My goverment don't encouraging the voilence , so we support the peace , we considere the Palestinians in Gaza and WB are abused by Israel regime .

there is no PA if Israel keeping abusing/occupating Palestinians in WB .

the only Land reset for Palestinians is Gaza , so Israel i suppose will invade it because Israel don't want Hamas control there .

 

[Tumah]

If i am doctor and i find sick Jew , i will not hesitate to treat him . it's humanity duty and my religious duty

Yes... I don't understand you're point. I was showing you that Muslims are not segregated if they are not violent. They even work and are treated in hospitals.

I don't understand your point here

Yes, that doesn't surprise me. Its simple: if they will stop being violent, then Israel will leave them alone.

do you mean Druze don't want from Israel to build them homes ?

Yeah, the Israeli government was surprised too.

what about the rest of Muslims and Christians ? did Israel built homes/towns to them ?

Abu Ghosh is a Muslim town in Israel. I'm sure there are more. Bethlehem used to be a Christian town, but they are getting run out by the Muslims living there. Christians are completely integrated with the rest of Israeli society.

what you mean "Israel is building town for those that aren't trying to kill them " , do you mean Israel had nation of killers "Israeli Arabs" so they don't deserve to build them homes ?

Do you think Israel should build them homes, if the Arabs will turn around and kill them?

My goverment don't encouraging the voilence , so we support the peace , we considere the Palestinians in Gaza and WB are abused by Israel regime

Fine. However you want to phrase it. If you want to be a part of the peace, tell your government to convince the PA and WB to teach their citizens peace and not violence. Hamas is right now building tunnels with cement that their people need for housing. Tell your government to call Hamas and tell them to stop building tunnels.

there is no PA if Israel keeping abusing/occupating Palestinians in WB .

the only Land reset for Palestinians is Gaza , so Israel i suppose will invade it because Israel don't want Hamas control there .

I don't understand the first half of what you are saying here. Do you think Israel should want a WORLD TERRORIST ORGANIZATION to be its neighbor?

 

[Godobeyer]

You don't get it do you? They aren't less abusive. It simply is on another scale and can't be compared. It's like comparing theft and murder.

One German unit (Einsatzkommando 3 which was part of the Einsatzgruppe A) commanded by Karl Jäger murdered on the 29. October 1941 9200 Jews in Kaunas.
2007 Jewisch men, 2920 Jewish women, 4273 Jewish children.
On exactly one day.

This single unit murdered
137.346 people in 5 months. All civilians.

There is not a single occurrence in the Israeli-Arab conflict from the last 67 years that comes even remotely close.
As a matter of simple fact "only" +24.220 people died in this conflict during all those years. And this number includes fatalities from both sides including non-civilians.
btw the German unit had more than 24.220 "kills" by the
22.8.1941 and they started 04.7.1941, exactly 26.145 people. It didn't take them even two months...

And that is the difference. This wasn't the only such unit operating behind the front lines, there were various others doing exactly the same stuff.
But I already wrote you this months ago and you still don't understand it.

I know that was huribale crimes made against Jews by Nazis .

so it's suppose to be the Israel become ideal country in the teach the others , NO RACISM and EQUALITY.

So there are Israelis in favour of a two state solution and who oppose the settlements.

Wow that's like the first time I've heard about this. Really thank you.

I know it's not first time , i just want to remind you

btw are you against settlements in WB ?

Ah so you don't want to explain how it relates.

Ah well.

I explain it by bold your words , but you unforuntlly you seems don't get my point .

 

[metis]

there are some colonises of Jews are banned for Muslims . right ?

in WB Israel suppose make a deal to retreat from them and give them to Palestinians, so next goverment of Israel break the deal of previous goverment , do you know that ?

I am not against Jews living with Muslims , i am against minority of Jews abusing Muslims by living with them in WB , do you get my point ?

if you don't get my point watch the reportage IsraelvsIsrael.



in matter of citizenship, NOW , let's say Iran or Yeman or Morroco or Tunisia , in these countries as i know the Jews had equal rights to Muslims . and they are protected exactly as the Muslims .





agreed .

You simply do not know what you're talking about. Both el-Fatah and Hamas have purposely attacked or allowed attacks on civilian targets in Israel. So, for you claim to it was Israel that violated the agreement is bizarre under those circumstances. You can't have it both ways.

And in case you haven't noticed, Muslims are killing other Muslims all over the region, so do you think we are so ignorant whereas we believe you and much of the Muslim leadership is peace-loving? When Hamas and Hezbollah have launched rockets and missiles into Israel, are you really aware of the fact that this also targets Muslims who live there as well?

BTW, only one who doesn't know history or current events would make the claim that non-Muslims have equal rights in many Muslim countries, and Jews certainly don't have equal rights in the WB and GS-- they have none at all.

So, cry us a river, and let me repeat that anyone, including you, that wishes another country to be "annihilated" as you voted, is truly sick.

 

[Godobeyer]

Yes... I don't understand you're point. I was showing you that Muslims are not segregated if they are not violent. They even work and are treated in hospitals.

thanks , good to let me know .

Yes, that doesn't surprise me. Its simple: if they will stop being violent, then Israel will leave them alone.

ok

Yeah, the Israeli government was surprised too.

maybe because they feel it's late step for Israeli goverment ?

Abu Ghosh is a Muslim town in Israel. I'm sure there are more. Bethlehem used to be a Christian town, but they are getting run out by the Muslims living there. Christians are completely integrated with the rest of Israeli society.

Abus Ghosh built by Israeli goverment for Muslims ? or it's made by Muslims them selfs ?

Do you think Israel should build them homes, if the Arabs will turn around and kill them?

do you mean Israel goverement don't build to Arabs citizens homes because they represent a threaten to Jews (population) ?

Fine. However you want to phrase it. If you want to be a part of the peace, tell your government to convince the PA and WB to teach their citizens peace and not violence. Hamas is right now building tunnels with cement that their people need for housing. Tell your government to call Hamas and tell them to stop building tunnels.
I don't understand the first half of what you are saying here. Do you think Israel should want a WORLD TERRORIST ORGANIZATION to be its neighbor?

I am against Hamas in using money of donate to building tunnels or making amateur (random) missiles , also i am against Israel seizing and bombing all people of Gaza because Hamas .

Gaza if were Israel town taken by Hamas, Israel won't random bombing, because it's full of Jews .
My government don't had any control in Hamas or PA to make instructions to them .

tell your government to remove the colonises in WB and checkpoints and give back the WB to Palestinians as deal of peace said .

 

[Godobeyer]

You simply do not know what you're talking about. Both el-Fatah and Hamas have purposely attacked or allowed attacks on civilian targets in Israel. So, for you claim to it was Israel that violated the agreement is bizarre under those circumstances. You can't have it both ways.

And in case you haven't noticed, Muslims are killing other Muslims all over the region, so do you think we are so ignorant whereas we believe you and much of the Muslim leadership is peace-loving? When Hamas and Hezbollah have launched rockets and missiles into Israel, are you really aware of the fact that this also targets Muslims who live there as well?

it's not my fault that you don't notice my many threads critics the crimes of ISIS , and other issues in Muslims world

i am aware about Jews civilians as well Muslims .

BTW, only one who doesn't know history or current events would make the claim that non-Muslims have equal rights in many Muslim countries, and Jews certainly don't have equal rights in the WB and GS-- they have none at all.

So, cry us a river, and let me repeat that anyone, including you, that wishes another country to be "annihilated" as you voted, is truly sick.

that's why i critic the poll options , there is not much choice in poll , just YES or NO .

so I prefered YES , because i know that there are good Jews in Israel .

I will request to remove my vote ,because it's sick poll .

 

[Unification]

The following un-edited posts really made me wonder: Among those who are anti-Israel, is there really a question about Israel's right to exist?

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There's nothing special about Israel over any other country in the world, just as there is nothing special about a heritage Jew over any other heritage. Everyone matters. If countries want to kill and murder and be violent over mythical stories, I wouldn't say they deserve to be destroyed, but they bring it upon themselves. . And spreading truth and love and peace, collectively is the only hope. Most religions have been the culprit to the worlds problems and don't even realize it. All of the scriptures are about the brain and the mind and being transformed from within and becoming spiritual. The opposite of what most religions teach, yet think they are pleasing God. No, Israel should not be destroyed, nothing and nobody needs to be destroyed, it would be doing God's will to just surrender any worthless land and worthless buildings and forgive the enemy. Israel has every right to exist, but they don't have the right be prideful and think of themselves above anyone or any other country. Just as other religions are the same culprit for the Israeli struggles over the years... Fighting and killing over mythical stories that are spiritual.

 

[Unification]

LOL isis protects israel the most.
Isis and jabhat are nonsense groups , they never attacked the zionists. They never threw stone at them.

There was leaked pic about nusrah fighters and zionist soldiers talking in the golan heights.

Personaly i dont hate jews, no reason to hate them, they are humans etc. What i hate is this oppressive regime occupying the holy land.

There is no such thing as holy land. The human is supposed to be the holy land.

 

[Unification]

LOL isis protects israel the most.
Isis and jabhat are nonsense groups , they never attacked the zionists. They never threw stone at them.

There was leaked pic about nusrah fighters and zionist soldiers talking in the golan heights.

Personaly i dont hate jews, no reason to hate them, they are humans etc. What i hate is this oppressive regime occupying the holy land.

Here is the Holy land and where Zion truly is, where Gods presence dwells, in the tabernacle of God: the brain.

The suprasellar cistern (also known as pentagon of basal cisterns) is a cerebrospinal-fluid filled space located above the sella turcica, under the hypothalamus. It contains the optic chiasma, the infundibular stalk and the polygone of Willis. It has the shape of a pentagon at the level of the optic chiasma, and the shape of a six-point star at the level of cerebral peduncles.

The hypothalamus is located below the thalamus, just above the brainstem (stem of Jesse-brainstem) and is part of the limbic system.

One of the most important functions of the hypothalamus is to link the nervous system to the endocrine system via the pituitary gland (hypophysis).

 

[metis]

Well:

Ps.78

1. [54] And he brought them to his holy land,
   to the mountain which his right hand had won.

Zech.2

1. [12] And the LORD will inherit Judah as his portion in the holy land, and will again choose Jerusalem."

Wis.12

1. [3] Those who dwelt of old in thy holy land

2Mac.1

1. [7] In the reign of Demetrius, in the one hundred and sixty-ninth year, we Jews wrote to you, in the critical distress which came upon us in those years after Jason and his company revolted from the holy land and the kingdom

BTW, I'm by no means a scriptural literalist, but I just thought some might find this interesting.

 

[Unification]

Well:

Ps.78

1. [54] And he brought them to his holy land,
   to the mountain which his right hand had won.

Zech.2

1. [12] And the LORD will inherit Judah as his portion in the holy land, and will again choose Jerusalem."

Wis.12

1. [3] Those who dwelt of old in thy holy land

2Mac.1

1. [7] In the reign of Demetrius, in the one hundred and sixty-ninth year, we Jews wrote to you, in the critical distress which came upon us in those years after Jason and his company revolted from the holy land and the kingdom

I'm not sure what difference that makes. The promised land and reaching the mountain, as well as the holy land and the kingdom are still all "within" not external. Enlightenment. Fighting for God internally, spiritual battle.
Judah is one of the 12 cranial nerves coming from the cerebrum where the light/cosmic energy comes from the brain, from the eastern hemisphere.
One of the two cranial nerves coming from the cerebrum. (The South kingdom)
Just as the other 10 cranial nerves come from the brainstem (the North kingdom)
Israel didn't even become a state until the mid 1900's. . And was never meant to be the name of a literal country.
A natural "HUMAN's" name was changed to "ISRAEL" when he was awakened at the place of the Pineal gland. . Not a country's name, a human's name after he became spiritual.

 

[gsa]

it's not my fault that you don't notice my many threads critics the crimes of ISIS , and other issues in Muslims world

i am aware about Jews civilians as well Muslims .




that's why i critic the poll options , there is not much choice in poll , just YES or NO .

so I prefered YES , because i know that there are good Jews in Israel .

I will request to remove my vote ,because it's sick poll .

For what it is worth Godobeyer, I think that you are relatively moderate given the region, from what I have seen from you, and some of this is the result of a language barrier.

 

[Unification]

No, it would not. But tell me, my democratic friend, what would you think about a nation-wide vote in Israel on equal rights for women?

God teaches to have just and equal balances and measures, and that the woman/wife in scripture is the subconsious mind of the human and the unclean one.

 

[Unification]

The Law that it is not permitted to enter the Temple mount when one is impure. All Jews today have a status of impure. Also, for specific castes to go into certain areas of Temple mount is not permitted. The Rabbis do not allow it.
In my opinion, it is better to have al Aksa up there, because it is saving Jewish lives. The punishment for a Jew to go there while impure is to be cut off from G-d. And if the Mosque wouldn't be there, it would be a tourist site for Jews and they would all deserve this very bad punishment.

The temple of God is the brain. Of course God's presence won't dwell there if one is impure and unclean in mind and heart. Just as for the Muslim and their scriptures, the Mosque of God is the brain. One and all have been cutoff from God for a long time, as long as the hate, violence, murder, and outward vanity and worship of worthless buildings is going on.

 

[Unification]

The ethical strategy would be to realize that the scriptures have a deeper objective meaning and that The tabernacle and temple of God is the brain of the human. Realizing land is worthless as well as buildings. Come to peace, surrender land, forgive, etc. Stop murdering and fighting over mythical stories that never happened and realize it's all talking about the brain and the mind and becoming inward and spiritual, not outward.

 

[Unification]

Your two cheribum, as well as the innermost court (pia mater), outermost court (duramater) and the holy of the holies, the pineal gland between the eastern and western hemispheres of brain.

 

[JacobEzra.]

It's because of how tribal they are with each other. I don't mind enthocentrism, but they're almost like actual Nazis these days. I also don't like how they cry 'anti-semitism!' at a lot of things just to get their way or to make people stop talking.

I'm not one for Jewspiracies, but some of the things I've heard and read over the years are just too compelling. Don't get me wrong, I'm one of the least likely to be persuaded by a conspiracy like that, but I have too often gotten rubbed the wrong way by certain Jewish leaders.

Yeah, and don't forget how cheap they are.....

 

[Tumah]

maybe because they feel it's late step for Israeli goverment ?

No, I don't remember what the reason was and I can't find it now.

Abus Ghosh built by Israeli goverment for Muslims ? or it's made by Muslims them selfs ?

What's the difference. They still have to go through the Housing Ministry.

do you mean Israel goverement don't build to Arabs citizens homes because they represent a threaten to Jews (population) ?

Hasn't the danger of the Muslims here been my point the whole time?

I am against Hamas in using money of donate to building tunnels or making amateur (random) missiles , also i am against Israel seizing and bombing all people of Gaza because Hamas

Israel doesn't seize and bomb all people of Gaza except when Hamas bombs Israel first.

Gaza if were Israel town taken by Hamas, Israel won't random bombing, because it's full of Jews .

So you are saying, Hamas doesn't take the proper precaution to ensure the safety of its people?

My government don't had any control in Hamas or PA to make instructions to them .

But they have the power to put pressure

tell your government to remove the colonises in WB and checkpoints and give back the WB to Palestinians as deal of peace said .

Only when the people of WB and GS stop blowing up Israel.

 

[Tumah]

The temple of God is the brain. Of course God's presence won't dwell there if one is impure and unclean in mind and heart. Just as for the Muslim and their scriptures, the Mosque of God is the brain. One and all have been cutoff from God for a long time, as long as the hate, violence, murder, and outward vanity and worship of worthless buildings is going on.

I'm not even sure why you think any of this is relevant to this thread. But I really don't want to know.