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Should Marijuana Be Legal

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Excellent! You've seen the movie!

For those not as well informed...
Reefer Madness was an anti-weed propaganda flick.
It was intended to frighten the population.
It did.

Nowadays it is shown to the embarrassment of it's makers, and the believers that fell to it's proposals.
 

Antinomian

peacenik
Debaters debate the two wars as if Nixon’s civil war on Woodstock Nation didn’t yet run amok. One needn’t travel to China to find indigenous cultures lacking human rights or to Cuba for political prisoners. America leads the world in percentile behind bars, thanks to ongoing persecution of hippies, radicals, and non-whites under banner of the war on drugs. If we’re all about spreading liberty abroad, then why mix the message at home? Peace on the home front would enhance credibility.

The drug czar’s Rx for prison fodder costs dearly, as lives are flushed down expensive tubes. My shaman’s second opinion is that psychoactive plants are God’s gift. In God’s eyes, it’s all good (Gen.1:12). The administration claims it wants to reduce demand for cartel product, but extraditing Canadian seed vendor Marc Emery increases demand. Mr. Emery enables American farmers to steal cartel customers with superior domestic product.

The constitutionality of the CSA (Controlled Substances Act of 1970) derives from an interstate commerce clause. This clause is invoked to finance organized crime, endanger homeland security, and throw good money after bad. Official policy is to eradicate, not tax, the number-one cash crop in the land. America rejected prohibition, but it’s back. Apparently, SWAT teams don’t need no stinking amendment.

Nixon promised the Schafer Commission would support the criminalization of his enemies, but it didn’t. No matter, the witch-hunt was on. No amendments can assure due process under an anti-science law without due process itself. Psychology hailed the breakthrough potential of LSD, until the CSA halted all research. Marijuana has no medical use, period.

The RFRA (Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993) allows Native American Church members to eat peyote, which functions like LSD. Americans shouldn’t need a specific church membership to obtain their birthright freedom of religion. Denial of entheogen sacrament to any American, for mediation of communion with his or her maker, precludes free exercise of religious liberty.

Freedom of speech presupposes freedom of thought. The Constitution doesn’t enumerate any governmental power to embargo diverse states of mind. How and when did government usurp this power to coerce conformity? The Mayflower sailed to escape coerced conformity. Legislators who would limit cognitive liberty lack jurisdiction.

Common-law must hold that adults own their bodies. The Founding Fathers decreed that the right to the pursuit of happiness is inalienable. Socrates said to know your self. Lawmakers should not presume to thwart the intelligent design that molecular keys unlock spiritual doors. Persons who appreciate their own free choice of path in life should tolerate seekers’ self-exploration.

Simple majorities in each house could repeal the CSA. The books have ample law on them without the CSA. The usual caveats remain in effect. You are liable for damages when you screw up. Strong medicine requires prescription. Employees can be fired for poor job performance. No harm, no foul; and no excuse, either. Replace the war on drugs with a frugal, constitutional, science-based drugs policy.
 

Erebus

Well-Known Member
I've always held that as long as people are aware of the dangers of smoking marijuana then the choice should really be down to them. I believe that you should legally be allowed to pretty much do what you want with your body and if you make a mess of yourself then you have only yourself to blame.
I don't take drugs of any kind myself (unless you count alcohol of course) as I don't want to risk the side effects. However I have no problem with other people taking drugs if that's what they genuinely want to do.
 

kai

ragamuffin
I've always held that as long as people are aware of the dangers of smoking marijuana then the choice should really be down to them. I believe that you should legally be allowed to pretty much do what you want with your body and if you make a mess of yourself then you have only yourself to blame.
I don't take drugs of any kind myself (unless you count alcohol of course) as I don't want to risk the side effects. However I have no problem with other people taking drugs if that's what they genuinely want to do.

I don't have a problem with people smoking or drinking unless of course the tax payer has to pick up the medical bills like they do in my country.
 

Erebus

Well-Known Member
I don't have a problem with people smoking or drinking unless of course the tax payer has to pick up the medical bills like they do in my country.

Yes this is a problem, personally I believe that anybody suffering from the side effects of their own lifestyle choice should have to pay for any medical attention to remedy these side effects. Of course this isn't without it's problems, as how can you know for certain whether a person's lung cancer stems from their smoking?
I agree though that it isn't right that the public should have to pay for the self inflicted injuries of others.
 

gzusfrk

Christian
Yes this is a problem, personally I believe that anybody suffering from the side effects of their own lifestyle choice should have to pay for any medical attention to remedy these side effects. Of course this isn't without it's problems, as how can you know for certain whether a person's lung cancer stems from their smoking?
I agree though that it isn't right that the public should have to pay for the self inflicted injuries of others.
yet we pay for a rapist and murderers, lunch and cloths, heat and air,medical,bad guys dont pay there way in the usa,they make the victim pay, sorry got of topic.I think if it were legal it would take a lot of money away from the bad guys.
 

Mr Cheese

Well-Known Member
No marijuana should not be legal.

The fact that the FBI and other agencies monitor evry american and create files that include the mention of religious affiliation and drug attitudes is somethign as americans should always know (waves a flag). The mere mention of support of maryjew wanna may make and extra topics...may make netries for people on federal servers

I in no way support marijuana today tomorrow or ever. God bless America, the land of the monitored and the home of the brave.

"The party is not concerned with perpetuating itself. Who wields power is not important, providing that the hierarchical structure remains always the same." ~ George Orwell
 

Subhood

aintnopartylikeanopenbar
I don't have a problem with people smoking or drinking unless of course the tax payer has to pick up the medical bills like they do in my country.

id rather see my tax money go to drinkers and smokers rather than rapists and murderers


and ive always wondered where all the marijuana goes when they make a huge bust. do they just resell it to countries where it is legal?
 

Perfect Circle

Just Browsing
Marijuana should not be legal. If people do marijuana, they might laugh while reading Shakespeare, kill their entire family with an axe, play the piano manically, or even worse, attend jazz parties.

Reefer Madness


I remember all those insane jazz parties from college... We would stay up until 10 or 11 sometimes... Those were some crazy reefers...:beach:
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
In my opinion, from what I've heard, it's pretty harmless on it's own. So maybe I'm leading towards the legalizing side.

HOWEVER......

I also think that any substance can be abused, and that's where one of the major problems lies when legalizing something - the people may abuse it.

To me, I think the ideal solution would be to somehow "fix" the said societies attitudes/responsibilities, before legalizing certain things. We've gotta sort out the mentality of so many people wanting to deliberately do drugs to the extreme, just so they can get wasted.

I mean just look at Alcohol. It creates SO many problems in my country, yet it is perfectly legal. Not only that, but my society is constantly being exposed to this attitude of how it's okay or "glamourous" to abuse Alcohol and act like a total prick.
Not only that, but Cigaretters? Come on! What's the use of them? Why're they legal? Oh yeah, I know why, because smoking companies make huge profits, and an addicted population is very desirable if they're addicted to YOUR expensive product.

I don't wanna sound like a Dictator, and I don't want to ruin people's freedom, I just want people to be able to enjoy their lives and not be victims of drugs abuse, or cause problems themselves because of drugs.
I just believe that like how a child needs to show responsibility before it can be allowed to play with the big toys, society should do the same, before it is allowed to use things like Alcohol, Weed or (in some cases) Guns.

Before we legalize anything, we should raise our Citizens properly, to respect the use of moderation along with personal responsibility, and to be able to know when enough is enough, and when not to abuse etc.

But hey, I'm not a Politician and I've never Governed a society before, so what do I know lol.

xD
 

J Bryson

Well-Known Member
A question for those concerned about people abusing it in the event of legalization: Has any anti-marijuana legislation kept people from abusing it?
 

rojse

RF Addict
Excellent! You've seen the movie!

For those not as well informed...
Reefer Madness was an anti-weed propaganda flick.
It was intended to frighten the population.
It did.

Nowadays it is shown to the embarrassment of it's makers, and the believers that fell to it's proposals.

hah thank u thief u beat me to it. what a bull**** movie

It is a pity that many people still think that way about marihuana (as it is spelled in the movie).
 

kai

ragamuffin
yet we pay for a rapist and murderers, lunch and cloths, heat and air,medical,bad guys dont pay there way in the usa,they make the victim pay, sorry got of topic.
I think if it were legal it would take a lot of money away from the bad guys
.

Hw? how will it stop "the bad guys" making money out of it, like i said earlier i can buy counterfeit or tax free goods like cigarettes ( which are legal) from criminals right now.
 

kai

ragamuffin
In my opinion, from what I've heard, it's pretty harmless on it's own. So maybe I'm leading towards the legalizing side.

HOWEVER......

I also think that any substance can be abused, and that's where one of the major problems lies when legalizing something - the people may abuse it.

To me, I think the ideal solution would be to somehow "fix" the said societies attitudes/responsibilities, before legalizing certain things. We've gotta sort out the mentality of so many people wanting to deliberately do drugs to the extreme, just so they can get wasted.

I mean just look at Alcohol. It creates SO many problems in my country, yet it is perfectly legal. Not only that, but my society is constantly being exposed to this attitude of how it's okay or "glamourous" to abuse Alcohol and act like a total prick.
Not only that, but Cigaretters? Come on! What's the use of them? Why're they legal? Oh yeah, I know why, because smoking companies make huge profits, and an addicted population is very desirable if they're addicted to YOUR expensive product.

I don't wanna sound like a Dictator, and I don't want to ruin people's freedom, I just want people to be able to enjoy their lives and not be victims of drugs abuse, or cause problems themselves because of drugs.
I just believe that like how a child needs to show responsibility before it can be allowed to play with the big toys, society should do the same, before it is allowed to use things like Alcohol, Weed or (in some cases) Guns.

Before we legalize anything, we should raise our Citizens properly, to respect the use of moderation along with personal responsibility, and to be able to know when enough is enough, and when not to abuse etc.

But hey, I'm not a Politician and I've never Governed a society before, so what do I know lol.

xD

you must be able to see the direction the UK is going , its obvious that smoking is on its way out ,and attention is being turned on to Alcohol
 

J Bryson

Well-Known Member
Hw? how will it stop "the bad guys" making money out of it, like i said earlier i can buy counterfeit or tax free goods like cigarettes ( which are legal) from criminals right now.

And yet isn't it easier (if you're of age) to walk into a liquor store and buy them? When prohibition ended, the speakeasies and bathtub gin manufacturers either went legit or closed up shop.
 
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