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should prostitution be legal?

We Never Know

No Slack
I personally think so. I have been told if we did legalize it, there would be brothels to live in which is safer for the streets. Since they would all have to be 18 or older I would cut way down on the need for underage prostitutes. Right now sometimes sex traffickers kidnap teens and force them into it. Sometimes they get an older boyfriend who is really a pimp who manipulates and seduces them into it. i am for it if it would get some teens off the streets and away from pimps.
Anyone have a point a view on this?
It is in some parts of Nevada
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
If it is decriminalized a man that takes off a condom mid act could be legally charged for doing so.

That would be sexual assault. It can be prosecuted regardless of whether prostitution is legal.

(Though with prostitution legal, it's more likely that a sex worker would go to the police in a case like that)
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
Yes, I support decriminalization. What a person does with their own body is that person's own business (I guess in more ways than one). Decriminalization also would allow women that are abused by pimps and other traffickers to go to the police without fear of legal reprisal against them. If we only legalize and license it there will still be those that avoid that route. There will still be illegal sex workers which means that there will still be pimps and trafficking.
Especially trafficking.
The argument that the prostitutes are legally better protected when prostitution is legal doesn't work here. The girls are still illegal immigrants and can be send back. So they will not seek legal protection and (often willfully) keep their illegal status and the association with their criminal pimps.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
What does this mean? If one is selling it doesn't the other have to pay for(purchase) it?

"The selling of sex in Canada is legal, but the purchasing of sex is illegal in all circumstances"


I have no idea what's up with that website.

The info may just be out of date. A lot of the prohibitions for activities around prostitution got struck down by the courts several years ago.

In any case, legal brothels exist all over Canada (though their locations are regulated by zoning bylaws and the like, just like any other class of business). Escort services operate openly and legally as well.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
It's the same in some other countries - those trying to purchase sex are prosecuted but those selling aren't. A bit unfair perhaps. o_O

Here, no.
Neither prostitutes nor their clients are prosecuted...because it's not a crime.
Especially if it's done in a house...where nobody can see. On the street it can be public indecency.
Exploitation of prostitution is a crime, though.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
I have no idea what's up with that website.

The info may just be out of date. A lot of the prohibitions for activities around prostitution got struck down by the courts several years ago.

In any case, legal brothels exist all over Canada (though their locations are regulated by zoning bylaws and the like, just like any other class of business). Escort services operate openly and legally as well.
Says similar here....

"Current laws passed by the Parliament of Canada in 2014 make it illegal to purchase or advertise sexual services and illegal to live on the material benefits from sex work. The law officially enacted criminal penalties for "Purchasing sexual services and communicating in any place for that purpose"

"It is the first time in Canadian history that the exchange of sexual services for money is made illegal. The Canadian Department of Justice claims that the new legal framework "reflects a significant paradigm shift away from the treatment of prostitution as 'nuisance', as found by the Supreme Court of Canada in Bedford, toward treatment of prostitution as a form of sexual exploitation".[2] Many sex workers' rights organizations, however, argue that the new law entrenches and maintains harm against sex workers since sex workers are still committing a crime, albeit there is an immunity from arrest for material benefits and advertising."

 

We Never Know

No Slack
It's the same in some other countries - those trying to purchase sex are prosecuted but those selling aren't. A bit unfair perhaps. o_O
I've seen some real cop shows where a female cop goes undercover as a prostitute and then they arrest the guys that try to pick her up with the intent of exchanging money for sex.
IMO that's pure entrapment
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
I've seen some real cop shows where a female cop goes undercover as a prostitute and then they arrest the guys that try to pick her up with the intent of exchanging money for sex.
IMO that's pure entrapment
The Nordic countries seem to have prioritised the welfare of sex workers over those seeking their services, and perhaps they are right, given it generally is these who suffer most from this industry.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I've seen some real cop shows where a female cop goes undercover as a prostitute and then they arrest the guys that try to pick her up with the intent of exchanging money for sex.
IMO that's pure entrapment
TV shows are never your best examples of reality. But I have seen in my state where closed massage parlors are reopened by the police with women acting as "mass3euses". From my understanding the male customers have to initiate the offer. So if you ever go to such an establishment and you are paranoid just allow them to make the first move and you are golden.

In other states I have heard of them going a bit further. They will at times place an ad in the various personals for "escorts". When the guy shows up and pull out his money he is toast. Now that one seems to be getting awfully close to that line of entrapment to me. They ae actively luring johns rather than waiting for them to come to them.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
That would be sexual assault. It can be prosecuted regardless of whether prostitution is legal.

(Though with prostitution legal, it's more likely that a sex worker would go to the police in a case like that)
Yes, I could not think of the crime. The problem is that if someone is engaged in an illegal activity it greatly reduces the odds of someone reporting that someone did that to them. If prostitution is decriminalized or legalized a victim could have a DNA swab taken and that could be used as evidence to catch the male. It would of course help if the victim specified that condoms must be worn during the act.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
TV shows are never your best examples of reality. But I have seen in my state where closed massage parlors are reopened by the police with women acting as "mass3euses". From my understanding the male customers have to initiate the offer. So if you ever go to such an establishment and you are paranoid just allow them to make the first move and you are golden.

In other states I have heard of them going a bit further. They will at times place an ad in the various personals for "escorts". When the guy shows up and pull out his money he is toast. Now that one seems to be getting awfully close to that line of entrapment to me. They ae actively luring johns rather than waiting for them to come to them.

Did you miss the "real" in my post.

Undercover cops, Cops, Live PD, etc supposedly are real.

Undercover prostitution sting operation where female cops act as prostitutes and arrest the guys picking her up.

 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Did you miss the "real" in my post.

Undercover cops, Cops, Live PD, etc supposedly are real.

I did. I missed that, but it also appears that your description of events may not be accurate. But even that has to be taken with a grain of salt. I am watching it now. It appears that they are waiting for the male to make the first move. Again, not entrapment.

EDIT: The second guy was not taken in for prostitution. He did not make an offer. He exposed himself to her so that is a "lewd act".
 

Alien826

No religious beliefs
What does this mean? If one is selling it doesn't the other have to pay for(purchase) it?

"The selling of sex in Canada is legal, but the purchasing of sex is illegal in all circumstances"

That's weird. It says the objective is to reduce prostitution. That would be like attempting to reduce car accidents by making selling cars legal but punishing people who buy them. :rolleyes:
 

We Never Know

No Slack
I did. I missed that, but it also appears that your description of events may not be accurate. But even that has to be taken with a grain of salt. I am watching it now. It appears that they are waiting for the male to make the first move. Again, not entrapment.

EDIT: The second guy was not taken in for prostitution. He did not make an offer. He exposed himself to her so that is a "lewd act".

That's just one video. There are many. Btw, none of the guys are arrested for prositution, they are arrested for solicitation
 
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