Jose Fly
Fisker of men
Huh. I didn't have you pegged as an advocate of regulation via big government.
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Should same sex marriage be legal?
- Thread starter YeshuaRedeemed
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epronovost
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I don't think straight people need to get married either. Do you think straight people should also ask the government's permission to get married too and present their case in favor?
Aww, come on now, you know marriage is a word, not a sentence ;-)
Skwim
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Unveiled Artist
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Yes. Any person should have the legal right to marry (and use the word marriage) another person regardless of who they are, how they look, where they're from, what religion they follow, what their ethnicity is, how they identify, what they do for a living, what they did, what they choose not to do, their political opinions, and so forth....
exchemist
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Good point. When same sex marriage was brought in, in the UK, I was amazed to find a number of churches, including the Catholic church, voicing opposition. But since it concerned civil marriages only, I could not see what the fuss was about really.
And, I have to say, there are gay people I have known for years whose lives have been made immeasurably happier by the symbolic acceptance of them by society that civil marriage confers. There is a one guy I knew at Oxford who is a changed man - seems about 10 years younger than he did 40 years ago, when he was trying to hush it up!
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I say yes.
It took a while to get that.
Yes....let gays endure the word too.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I hope that goes well.
I do not like big weddings, I did not have one.
That is a continual problem between religion and government. In some places religion becomes the government.
I'm good with that. But please note, there are religious institutions that are happy to perform them.
QuestioningMind
Well-Known Member
Nobody needs to get married, everyone should have to submit a form stating the reasons why they should be allowed to get married to a responsible office that will decide whether or not it is a good enough reason.
Or MAYBE we should just allow any consenting adults who WANT to get married to do so.
stvdv
Veteran Member
Should same sex marriage be legal?
If something is not legal or illegal, it means mostly, that it's thought to be wrong. So, you are not Free (supposed) to do it. And most people kind of condemn it.
We have:
Freedom of Speech (say what we want)
Freedom of Religion (believe what we want)
BUT
Freedom of Sex is still not accepted
If even priests and nuns do it, one need not be a genius to know that many, many do it. And the funny, or rather hypocritical part is, that they are the ones teaching us it's bad. Teachers should live by example proves to be valuable.
So, people condemn what they like to do. Those must be all hypocritical masochists. So not healthy to condemn yourself (and others)
dybmh
דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
Stanyon
WWMRD?
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Would it, though?
A church that operated as an anonymous collection of individuals wouldn't be on the government's radar at all. They'd be free to "marry" people or not according to the dictates of their religion without the government saying anything.
They wouldn't be able to necessarily solemnize marriages that would have legal recognition, but if that recognition isn't what matters to them, then no problem. Or they could get a second ceremony done at City Hall for legal purposes.
... so religious freedom of individuals can be maintained regardless of what requirements we put on corporatized religious institutions.
There is a difference between "legal" and "scriptural" marriage.
Being "married" in the eyes of the law is one thing, but being married in the eyes of God is quite another.
For those who don't care what God thinks....you have every right to exercise your free will. For those who do care what God ordained for marriage the options are limited to "one man, one woman".
Jesus said at Matthew 19:4-6....
“Have you not read that the one who created them from the beginning made them male and female 5 and said: ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and his mother and will stick to his wife, and the two will be one flesh’? 6 So that they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has yoked together, let no man put apart.”
So because it is God who has yoked a man and a woman together in marriage, with a view to creating a family, people who care about God, run the risk of being a law breaker....God will reject "lawless" ones.
(Matthew 7:21-23)
sooda
Veteran Member
Marriage has always been a contract first.. Seeing it as a sacrament is another dimension.
Cooky
Veteran Member
Of course, there are extremists who would pursue such a sinister plan... Those progressive extremists would be just as bad as the religious extremists before them though. But for some, revenge is bittersweet.