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Because Gay people pay taxes to maintain the civil marriage licensing system.
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Should same sex marriage be legal?
- Thread starter YeshuaRedeemed
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No, you're good...
Cooky
Veteran Member
Well so do people who support Churches who marry men and women only.
And therefore, it should be obvious, everybody should pay their taxes, and everybody should leave everybody else alone (assuming no harm, of course).
On the other hand, though, it ought to be mentioned that those churches all are entitled to pretty generous tax breaks, and yet are privileged to discriminate in any way they see fit. Sound fair to you?
sooda
Veteran Member
Bravo. Its too easy for some to lose track of civil rights..
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Unfortunately, yes. If we start deciding what each religion can and cannot accept we open up a whole new can of night crawlers...
julianalexander745
Active Member
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
Reasonably, since I lacked specific information and had to judge based on what I knew.
Cooky
Veteran Member
But the Catholic Church is the 5th largest charitable organization in the United States.
The 200 Largest U.S. Charities - Forbes.com
...And the #1 largest globally. Why tax that?
It's fine so long as I don't take a gander at those geese goosing each othr.
Cooky
Veteran Member
It's a civil right that the Catholic Church change it's teaching on marriage, and the State dictates the Canon Law?
sooda
Veteran Member
When did the State do that? I would like to see the ruling by the state.
Cooky
Veteran Member
Well that's what some posters here are actually advocating... That the Catholic Church either marry same sex couples, or they lose their legal right to marry entirely, as in Catholic marriages performed by clergymen would no longer be accepted as legally binding by the State.
I think it's a bad idea.
sooda
Veteran Member
Those posters are idiots. Don't take the bait.
Cooky
Veteran Member
julianalexander745
Active Member
I don't know. I guess it just totally ignores and arguably discriminates against those who believe that marriage should only be between a man and a woman.
julianalexander745
Active Member
Agreed. Good post.
julianalexander745
Active Member
Evangelical and millitant SJWs.
Yes, in my opinion same-sex marriage should be legally available in every country. I have attended a gay wedding before and I had a rare time. It was beautiful.
No one is harmed by gay people exercising their right to have longstanding, romantic, stable relationships - which may also involve children, adopted or otherwise - recognised by the state (anymore than one is by heterosexuals!) on equal terms with straight couples. I can think of no meaningful objection to it that does not stem from, really, homophobia. (Indeed, I think gay marriage is actually a net positive for society and can provide yet more stable relationships for children to be raised in / families started and for orphans to find a loving home).
On the other hand, equally, I believe that religious believers - adhering to orthodox traditions like Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Orthodox Judaism, Sunni & Shia Islam, Baha'i - should also have their right to a sacramental / halachic / halal marriage between opposite-sex partners, in accordance with their doctrinal beliefs, protected by law.
One freedom should not be used to deny another freedom - both gay rights and religious freedom are sacrosanct.
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Cooky
Veteran Member
That seems like a well balanced and healthy solution for any society.