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Should Tipping be Banned?

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
The problem is that e employers should pay em as much as they should pay them, and apparently they are not doing it.

Until employers change that and pay waiters and waitresses their fair wage, then I will tip them. Not tipping isn't going to change anything and only the wait people, busboys, etc. will suffer.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
Until employers change that and pay waiters and waitresses their fair wage, then I will tip them. Not tipping isn't going to change anything and only the wait people, busboys, etc. will suffer.

Tipping be made illegal would change everything.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
If you're any good as a waiter or waitress, you can make well above minimum wage (About $8/hr) in tips. I used to average somewhere around $22 or $23 an hour in tips at a mid-scale restaurant. If they had done away with tips, I would not have agreed to the job.

I still know several people in their 20's and 30's who wait tables, and all make very respectable incomes - often more than their counterparts in professional jobs. Of course, this is in the DC area, and they all work at mid to upscale restaurants, and all work their butts off. Also, I don't know how people deal with all the drama and BS that seems to permeate the working environment in every restaurant.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Also, I don't know how people deal with all the drama and BS that seems to permeate the working environment in every restaurant.

It's funny how pervasive all that drama and BS is. I've never worked a restaurant that failed to be infused with it.
 

Roadrider

Member
If I want to tip someone I will, if not I won't- one jerkoff I gave two cent's to because that is all I thought about his service and style. I don't expect to have my *** kissed but I think someone that works in the food service industry would understand that good service equals better tips, if a place is busy and I see someone working their butt off to get things to their people I will tip them well if they made an obvious effort even if my drinks are not filled "on time" in my mind. If a restaurant want's to charge an automatic gratuity regardless of service I will not be eating there unless someone else is footing the bill. In the end I don't support banning anything, I feel they will work themselves out eventually if we let them go.
 
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MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
When you work in a restaurant for tips, you can, if circumstances are favorable, make a living wage off of tips.

Never could do that. As you could see, I wasn't as good as I wanted to be. :shrug:

If I could have 7 tables or less, I could serve super well. But, around here, I've heard on more than one occasion how people think that 10% is a tip for "good" service. High volume was never a thing I could manage, though. So, when it got really busy, I wasn't able to keep up.

So you got me beat on waiting tables. I can kick anybody's *** when it comes to dancing. Too bad we're still figuring out how to make a living wage with that. :sad:
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
Yes, it would drive down the incomes of competent waiters and waitresses and force some of them to take jobs in other industries.

It would make no worker be paid less than minimum because they lack the correct race, gender, or rack.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
I like tipping, if I have the money.

I see no reason why it should be banned, and the five listed reasons are hardly compelling. They basically boil down to: "I don't like tipping, so I don't want anyone else doing it, either."
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Yep ban tipping. We went to Australia in 1997, went to dinner left a tip they didn't know why. The owner of the restaurant and the server told us everyone gets minimum wage in Australia and no tipping is done.

It's definitely more common down here now than it used to be, but it's entirely discretionary. I leave a tip for exceptional service, and otherwise don't bother. And you're correct on the minimum wage thing.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
I like tipping, if I have the money.

I see no reason why it should be banned, and the five listed reasons are hardly compelling. They basically boil down to: "I don't like tipping, so I don't want anyone else doing it, either."

Banning it would be a way to change a custom that is punishing people for having the wrong gender, race and body assets o.o
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
paying servers minimum wage is ********. They can actualy make well above minimum wage on a good night. Severing is hard, ****** job, with ****** hours. But the tips make it worth while. Ive made several hundred dollars in a few hours before. Its worth all the pain and sacrifice. minimum wage for a hard job that makes you give up your social life is a joke.
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
The problem is that e employers should pay em as much as they should pay them, and apparently they are not doing it.
thats stupid tips make more income then an employer can afford to pay them.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
thats stupid tips make more income then an employer can afford to pay them.

Pretty sure the point would be to increase the price of the food, and increase the wages paid. Right now, based on what I am reading, a waiter might be getting $2 an hour if they don't get tips.

I think it all works pretty well over here. Minimum wage for a full-time or permanent part time employee is $15.96 per hour. For casuals, it's $19.63.

Obviously, the hard numbers are of limited use, since it's a different economic environment.
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
Pretty sure the point would be to increase the price of the food, and increase the wages paid. Right now, based on what I am reading, a waiter might be getting $2 an hour if they don't get tips.

I think it all works pretty well over here. Minimum wage for a full-time or permanent part time employee is $15.96 per hour. For casuals, it's $19.63.

Obviously, the hard numbers are of limited use, since it's a different economic environmAent.
ahh Well American MW is 7.35 until that goes up significantly this is not viable.
 

averageJOE

zombie
If tipping were banned it would make strip clubs really boring to go to. I mean, how else would we get their attention?
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
I see no reason why it should be banned, and the five listed reasons are hardly compelling.
In fact, they're pretty cheesy. The list looks as if it came from some high school English assignment.

They basically boil down to: "I don't like tipping, so I don't want anyone else doing it, either."
My thought as well.
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