Should Trump be given "slack" for not understanding politics?

[leibowde84]

Paul Ryan thinks so:
“He’s new to government,” Ryan said, after emphasizing the importance of an independent Justice Department. “So he probably wasn’t steeped in the long-running protocols that establish the relationships between DOJ, FBI, and White Houses. He’s just new to this.”

Is this an adequate excuse considering the fact that Trump has advisors, lawyers, his cabinet, etc. available to ask about his limitations as President?

 

[Revoltingest]

There is no yes or no answer.
People will handle it according to political orientation.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Oops, double-post of the thread!

 

[Revoltingest]

Oops, double-post of the thread!

A server malfunction is causing it for many of us.
I thought that I couldn't post in this thread at all,
but checked to see if it doubled up. Sure enuf!

 

[George-ananda]

I think it is true that there is stuff like that he doesn't understand as opposed to those who have been involved in national government for decades. It does make it harder to get traction for an impeachment when someone does things out of ignorance. When it comes down to it, there are two main options; removal from office OR endless attacks and allegations flying every which way. I see the latter most likely at this time and it is already getting boring.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

There is no yes or no answer.
People will handle it according to political orientation.

Of course there is: the answer is No, he should not be given so much as a micrometer of slack. He ripped on Obama for having a lack of experience when Obama has a ****-ton more experience in politics than Trump does. It's undiluted hypocrisy of Trump to insist people cut him some slack over the very thing he weaponised and used against others.

 

[Revoltingest]

Of course there is: the answer is No, he should not be given so much as a micrometer of slack. He ripped on Obama for having a lack of experience when Obama has a ****-ton more experience in politics than Trump does. It's undiluted hypocrisy of Trump to insist people cut him some slack over the very thing he weaponised and used against others.

See!
Political orientation typically determines one's response.
But an objective answer appears impossible.

Personally, I don't care whether he gets slack or not.
I'm watching foreign & domestic policies.

 

[sun rise]

Enough slack is when the metaphorical floor opens up and he reaches the end of his rope and starts swinging in the breeze. Given what we're seeing in DC, the door is open and he's falling, falling, falling. Soon the slack will end.

 

[YmirGF]

I think Trump is smart enough to be held to account for his words and deeds. He is hardly a babe in the woods.

 

[LuisDantas]

Is this an adequate excuse considering the fact that Trump has advisors, lawyers, his cabinet, etc. available to ask about his limitations as President?

Not even in a dream. That did not stop him any in making proud, stupid promises left and right.

If he can't act like an adult, he should not be excused for promising to behave like one.

 

[LuisDantas]

See!
Political orientation typically determines one's response.
But an objective answer appears impossible.

With all due respect, you must be kidding.

 

[Revoltingest]

With all due respect, you must be kidding.

You say both of those things pretty often these days.

 

[Nakosis]

Paul Ryan thinks so:
“He’s new to government,” Ryan said, after emphasizing the importance of an independent Justice Department. “So he probably wasn’t steeped in the long-running protocols that establish the relationships between DOJ, FBI, and White Houses. He’s just new to this.”

Is this an adequate excuse considering the fact that Trump has advisors, lawyers, his cabinet, etc. available to ask about his limitations as President?

No, not really. Right or wrong whatever your actions are you have to take responsibility for them.

Politically though, you have to deal with the optics.

No one is going to make every right(successful) choice, you just have to hope you make more successful choices than unsuccessful ones.

 

[leibowde84]

No, not really. Right or wrong whatever your actions are you have to take responsibility for them.

Politically though, you have to deal with the optics.

No one is going to make every right(successful) choice, you just have to hope you make more successful choices than unsuccessful ones.

There is a difference between making bad choices and straight up stupidity.

 

[Altfish]

He applied for the job, he got the job. So get on and do the job!!
If someone is appointed as Trump's National Security Advisor is he given any slack?

 

[Kilgore Trout]

A teenager working his first job deserves slack. Upper-level executives responsible for large organizations do not.

Score one for irony though, as the Republicans wouldn't cut Obama any slack, ever, for anything.

 

[sun rise]

A teenager working his first job deserves slack. Upper-level executives responsible for large organizations do not.

Score one for irony though, as the Republicans wouldn't cut Obama any slack, ever, for anything.

I would call it utter hypocrisy on their part. They demand something that they are not willing to give proving they're entitled to nothing.

 

[BSM1]

What makes you think Trump doesn't understand politics?

 

[Stevicus]

Paul Ryan thinks so:
“He’s new to government,” Ryan said, after emphasizing the importance of an independent Justice Department. “So he probably wasn’t steeped in the long-running protocols that establish the relationships between DOJ, FBI, and White Houses. He’s just new to this.”

Is this an adequate excuse considering the fact that Trump has advisors, lawyers, his cabinet, etc. available to ask about his limitations as President?

If he is proven to have broken the law, then no, he doesn't deserve any slack. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

On the other hand, if it's just a matter of "protocols," that's a different matter. On paper, the DOJ is under the President, and the FBI is under the DOJ. This means they're both under the President's chain of command. If they really wanted the Justice Department to be independent, then they could have set it up that way.

 

[VioletVortex]

Considering that he is currently the biggest name in politics, no. And by the way, when I tried to click "no", the voting window sort of reloaded. Maybe he hacked it...

 

[BSM1]

If he is proven to have broken the law, then no, he doesn't deserve any slack. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

On the other hand, if it's just a matter of "protocols," that's a different matter. On paper, the DOJ is under the President, and the FBI is under the DOJ. This means they're both under the President's chain of command. If they really wanted the Justice Department to be independent, then they could have set it up that way.

Should he be charged with anything?

 

[sun rise]

A teenager working his first job deserves slack. Upper-level executives responsible for large organizations do not.

Score one for irony though, as the Republicans wouldn't cut Obama any slack, ever, for anything.

I would call it utter hypocrisy on their part. They demand something that they are not willing to give proving they're entitled to nothing.