I'll leave that decision to the powers that be.
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Should Trump be given "slack" for not understanding politics?
- Thread starter leibowde84
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I'll leave that decision to the powers that be.
Sort of: political orientation apparently determines whether a person is willing to overlook incompetence.
Signs point to yes, IMO.
It is too bad that electing an honest and competent President is no longer an option.
Tom
I think he does.
I think he understands that he can lie and dissemble, but as long as a significant minority of people like the lies he won't be made accountable.
Tom
Or pronounce judgement before seeing evidence.
I think there's been plenty of evidence of Trump's incompetence.
Callisto
Hellenismos, BTW
Absolutely no slack at all.
Trump chooses willful ignorance and thinks he's above the law. For over 30 years, Trump has been dealing with state officials and publicly following and commenting on politics and politicians. During those 3 decades, he's also actively had his eye on the presidency (see here). This isn't some clueless individual, he's clearly had a more than passing or even average interest in the presidency for many, many years. For him to have "no idea" after decades of interacting with politicians and advisors during each iteration is more than a little implausible, it's downright impossible.
Who covets and plans for a job for 30 years yet knows nothing about the job?
Even without the past 30 years of pursuit, no candidate enters the ring uninformed and unadvised. That's what his campaign and transition teams and WH staff are for. He screws up because he's an immature, inept, and willfully ignorant narcissist with the attention span of a squirrel on crack who thinks rules and laws don't apply to him.
Trump chooses willful ignorance and thinks he's above the law. For over 30 years, Trump has been dealing with state officials and publicly following and commenting on politics and politicians. During those 3 decades, he's also actively had his eye on the presidency (see here). This isn't some clueless individual, he's clearly had a more than passing or even average interest in the presidency for many, many years. For him to have "no idea" after decades of interacting with politicians and advisors during each iteration is more than a little implausible, it's downright impossible.
Who covets and plans for a job for 30 years yet knows nothing about the job?
Even without the past 30 years of pursuit, no candidate enters the ring uninformed and unadvised. That's what his campaign and transition teams and WH staff are for. He screws up because he's an immature, inept, and willfully ignorant narcissist with the attention span of a squirrel on crack who thinks rules and laws don't apply to him.
Aye, but I spoke more generally.
You ignoring the evidence doesn't mean that the rest of us will.
And judging is not convicting.
But I am seeing lots of evidence that Trump's "incompetence" is a cover for dishonesty that borders on treason.
Tom
I don't think you grok my point.
So I'll pass on arguing about it.
Guy Threepwood
Mighty Pirate
Well most politicians are given slack for not understanding anything other than politics- least of all real world economics..
So this is a big improvement!
So this is a big improvement!
It can be complicated.
Obama was ignorant of economics, but he needed no slack from his
fans because his every failure was simply pronounced a success.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Would you give a surgeon slack if they didn't understand surgery?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
He wasn't a good president, but he had the fortune of having two really bad presidents before and after him, so he still comes out looking golden.
Golden brown?
BSM1
What? Me worry?
leibowde84
Veteran Member
Common sense dictates that the FBI must be independent from the executive branch when the executive or his administration/campaign are under investigation though. So why should we let Trump off the hook for disregarding common sense and basic professional ethics?