Shroud of Turin is from first AD.

[questfortruth]

It is violation of RULES to talk this way to a member of RF.
Where is your respect?

You are damn forbidden to tell any theist that he thinks of his God as of liar.

 

[Subduction Zone]

and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished.

Conclusion: God does not like abortion.

You misquoted:

"If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life."

Okay, if she only loses her pregnancy it is a fine. That is not "God does not like abortion". That is "God says that if you broke it you bought it". The penalty for causing an unwanted abortion was to pay for the damage. It was not to kill the man that caused it, and this is in the time of "an eye for an eye". If it was murder he would have been killed.

 

[Spirit of Light]

You are damn forbidden to tell any theist that he thinks of his God as of liar.

Who made these rules?

 

[questfortruth]

You misquoted:

"If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life."

Okay, if she only loses her pregnancy it is a fine. That is not "God does not like abortion". That is "God says that if you broke it you bought it". The penalty for causing an unwanted abortion was to pay for the damage. It was not to kill the man that caused it, and this is in the time of "an eye for an eye". If it was murder he would have been killed.

I am staying that God does not like the children to be aborted.

 

[ElishaElijah]

You can believe that, but reality disagrees.

And why do you believe that God is a liar?

Reality agrees with me friend, go plant an apple seed and see what come up, an apple tree. The Bible is very accurate and true.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You are damn forbidden to tell any theist that he thinks of his God as of liar.

Where did you get that from?

It is a logical conclusion from their claims that certain verses in the Bible are literally true. For example we know that there was no Flood of Noah. How do we know that? Because according to the Bible man made the Earth. The Earth clearly tells us that no flood ever happened. We have records of much smaller, much older floods, but there is no evidence of the biggest flood that ever occurred in the history of the world. That leaves us with two possibilities. Either God planted false evidence (which would be lying) after the flood, or there was no flood. If I was a Christian, and in fact when I was a Christian I did not believe that God was a liar, so I did not believe in the flood myth.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I am staying that God does not like the children to be aborted.

Then why were priests able to perform abortions in the Old Testament? And you said that it was murder. Exodus shows that is not the case.

 

[questfortruth]

Where did you get that from?

You are not allowed to suggest that other person thinks. You can ask person and get information.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Reality agrees with me friend, go plant an apple seed and see what come up, an apple tree. The Bible is very accurate and true.

Oh now you are confused about evolution. The theory of evolution says "plant an apple seed and an apple tree will come up." Do you think that you ever stopped being an ape?

 

[questfortruth]

Then why were priests able to perform abortions

Give me a verse.

 

[Mock Turtle]

You are not allowed to suggest that other person thinks. You can ask person and get information.

How about going back to the beginning of your life and restarting?

 

[Spirit of Light]

You are not allowed to suggest that other person thinks. You can ask person and get information.

He did ask a question

 

[questfortruth]

Do you think that you ever stopped being an ape?

Equating human to an animal is insult.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You are not allowed to suggest that other person thinks. You can ask person and get information.

Okay, let's put it this way: Though you do not realize it you are calling God a liar.

If God does not lie there was no flood. A person cannot have it both ways. One can say that he or she believe the flood fairy tale and believes that God does not lie, but it is fine to point out how they just contradicted themselves.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Equating human to an animal is insult.

No. It is merely a fact. You are making the mistake of interpreting it as an insult. You are an ape, but so am I.

You are an animal. You are too large to be a bacteria and move too much to be a tree.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Oh now you are confused about evolution. The theory of evolution says "plant an apple seed and an apple tree will come up." Do you think that you ever stopped being an ape?

When you read Genesis then go out into the world, your life experience is just like God describes creation.

 

[ElishaElijah]

No. It is merely a fact. You are making the mistake of interpreting it as an insult. You are an ape, but so am I.

You are an animal. You are too large to be a bacteria and move too much to be a tree.

Human flesh is even different than an ape. It’s called common design.

 

[questfortruth]

You are an animal.

Is God animal? Is angel animal? Is satan animal?

 

[Subduction Zone]

When you read Genesis then go out into the world, your life experience is just like God describes creation.

No, it is not. Creationists cannot even properly define the word "kind". And for the Flood " Where's the beef?". Why is there no evidence of an event that would have scarred the world?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Human flesh is even different than an ape. It’s called common design.

Nope. Your flesh is ape flesh.