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Jesus in me
It can be seen right now if one knows their scriptures.
I believe I know the scriptures and you have not seen anything.
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It can be seen right now if one knows their scriptures.
Can you quote that scripture?
And it never will be, Imo, because the body of Christ died on the cross, so it cannot return to earth.I believe I have that and many other Christians also but the B man didn't. A Christ Spirit is not the same thing as a Christ body. It is the bodily return that has not yet been fulfilled.
It will be forever, Imo.I believe it has been a long time but a long time is not forever.
And it never will be, Imo, because the body of Christ died on the cross, so it cannot return to earth.I believe I have that and many other Christians also but the B man didn't. A Christ Spirit is not the same thing as a Christ body. It is the bodily return that has not yet been fulfilled.
It will be forever, Imo.I believe it has been a long time but a long time is not forever.
You are free to believe anything you wish.I believe I know the scriptures and you have not seen anything.
I do not interpret it that way. You can interpret it that way if you want to.I suppose this is interpolated ie that a third of the waters means a third of the people:
Rev 8:11 The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters became wormwood, and many people died from the water, because it had been made bitter.
So what's new? It's kind of interesting that only "essential" work is being done. What does that say about what the rest of us do to make a living?
Are you joking or plain unlettered?I think this is the first universal calamity that humanity has experienced worldwide
@ loverofhumanity said:a world government is neither feasible nor desirable at this time
Baha’u’llah said that one day ...
"The time must come when........."
The time has not come yet.
You have been repeatedly called out on the meaningless babble you dish out around here - and we shall keep doing that as long as you try and peddle your worthless faith-based wares under the guise of "sharing"
Is this meaninglessness babble?
“... The time must come when the imperative necessity for the holding of a vast, an all-embracing assemblage of men will be universally realized. The rulers and kings of the earth must needs attend it, and, participating in its deliberations, must consider such ways and means as will lay the foundations of the world’s Great Peace amongst men.”
Personally, I see the world needs this to happen, I am sure many on RF would also like to see that happen.
Yes it is meaningless babble - and here is one opinion why - It is merely a hope that has been expressed before - a hope with no concrete means to achieve it other to plead with world leaders which has repeatedly been shown by history to not work.
Yet it is you denounce those that work towards that goal.
False allegation - I am merely denouncing you and your sly attempts at proselytizing around here - there are others actually doing stuff that promotes such unity - and you do not see me denouncing them.
Your generalizing in the above comment shows your intent and agenda - to run down any that might oppose your underhanded methods at promoting your tiny cult.
How are Sikhs working to bring peace and unity? How are Baha'is working with Sikhs to bring about unity? What are the basic beliefs of the Sikhs? Who was their founder and who did he claim to be?Wheras I will never denounce you, nor your chosen path. I will happily work with you, no matter your view of me, or my faith, I will always see you as a friend.
The power that enabled me to be kind to all, is the power of the Faith offered, it is the power on an unprejudiced unity of purpose.
RegardsTony
How are Sikhs working to bring peace and unity? How are Baha'is working with Sikhs to bring about unity? What are the basic beliefs of the Sikhs? Who was their founder and who did he claim to be?
I doubt if you know, but if you want to work with them, it would be nice if you learned a little of what they believe and what they are trying to accomplish.
Are you joking or plain unlettered?
Do you not remember the pandemic of 1918 merely a century ago - that wiped out nearly 25% of the then population?
What about the SARS epidemic from a few years ago
What about the world wars in 1914 and 1940? - ending with deployment of nuclear weapons?
I could legitimately call them "calamities"
You need to educate yourself better before throwing Baha'u'llah's meaningless quotes and "logic" at us - there have been reasoned answers as to why a world government is neither feasible nor desirable at this time
Had the world taken heed of Baha’u’llah’s call to unite both world wars I believe would never had occurred and any universal calamities would be resolved much quicker unitedly than as individual nations. The WTO even mentioned this point the other day that working together was much more preferable than trying to solve the crisis nation by nation.
Baha'is do believe it is time to put religious differences aside and work towards peace and unity between the different religions. Can Baha'is put their own beliefs aside? Those beliefs that go contrary to the beliefs of the other religions? Those beliefs that imply that Baha'is are better because they have the newest message from God.
I see the teachings are complimentary, so for a sikh to denounce the teachings of Baha'u'llah, that would be most likely reflect upon their own teachings.
I have said this to others before - as far as I am concerned - there is nothing about the message you tout that is original - it is all recycled from what is presented before and in other cultures
Tony, he is not "denouncing" Baha'u'llah's teachings. He is denouncing how Baha'is, in his opinion, are using these threads to proselytize. And I agree, but I don't mind it. Because the Baha'i threads gives us something to debate about. The Baha'i threads are my favorite threads here on the forum. And they are bringing people from the other religions together... but for the wrong reasons. To argue, not to work together to bring peace and unity. And who's fault is that? The people in the other religions? Or, the Baha'is? In your next post you say...False allegation - I am merely denouncing you and your sly attempts at proselytizing around here
Then, do it. Work with the Hindus and Sikhs... and Christians, and the others. You think you've got the message the world needs, then don't just talk about, or tell of how some other Baha'is are doing it, or how the UHJ has written about it. You do it. Right here. You bring unity. You're the one that has the plan and the message. Show us the way.I will happily work with you