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Signs of the Times - What’s happening to our world?

TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
Premium Member
The Jews who say that are apparently unaware that in a number of Messianic passages, the Messiah is killed and then "...war continues until the end" (Daniel 9). Also see Isaiah 53:6, etc. Those passages demand a 2nd Coming to fulfill the remaining prophecies.

I may also point out that the Bab (Gate) who was Elijah for Baha'u'llah, (Glory of God, or Glory of the Lord) was also a Messenger in His own right. Elijah always comes first. Thus this age had the full unfolding where the Bab prepared the way for the Father to bring 'Thy Kingdom Come, the Bab was executed and the Gate opened for the Glory of God to light the world, the Father has come.

The war now waging in this world against all that is of God and what is of man, is now our judgement. This is our judgement day, not only as an individual, but as a collective humanity.

Regards Tony
 

dfnj

Well-Known Member
I wouldn't assume to say anyone could understand my theological understanding, unless someone was an archangel too, with similar knowledge, and experiences.

The thing is unless you write about something with own voice you really do not know what you are talking about. The act of writing about something is what makes your understanding more profound and even real. Just reading and quoting something you think you understand is meaningless. And even further when you try to teach others what you believe it really forces your brain to organize its thoughts.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Yeah, but the Jews think their messengers are the only right ones. The Christians think their messenger is the only right one. And the Muslims think theirs is the only real one. All three of the major religions reject the other's messengers and only except their own as important.
It does not matter what religious people believe because beliefs do not create reality.
There is only one reality and we either discover it or fail to do so.
 

dfnj

Well-Known Member
Scriptures do not represent the mind of God. Nobody knows the mind of God.
Scriptures are simply the Messengers of God speaking as the Voice of God. The reveal the Will of God for every age but they do not ever reveal the mind of God. That remains a complete mystery.

Honestly, I tried reading the scripture you posted. I have no idea what it means. I read a lot. And I've never seen the word "disporting" ever used in a sentence until your post. Now I have to look it up. Damn it!
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
The way you people here refer to "god" is laughable.
If the god within you (many don't have one) can't negotiate with the world at large with your intellect, there was never an internal god to be reasoned with. Instead more human folly, to the point of humor. And this should deja-vu, yet humans will continue to stratify themselves in daft hopes of something they know is NO LONGER possible. Adapt.
Can you put that in plain English? I am a straight shooter.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Honestly, I tried reading the scripture you posted. I have no idea what it means. I read a lot. And I've never seen the word "disporting" ever used in a sentence until your post. Now I have to look it up. Damn it!
What scripture was that? I'd be more than happy to explain it to you. :)

There was a time when I could not understand the Writings of Baha'u'llah for beans but most of them are now as clear as the noonday sun. ;)
 

dfnj

Well-Known Member
It does not matter what religious people believe because beliefs do not create reality.
There is only one reality and we either discover it or fail to do so.

I do not agree at all. People choose how they are going to experience reality. People with life threatening illness see everything they experience as proof the World is coming to an end. Where as enthusiastic and upbeat people see the World as a blessing from God with a bright future. You do know the word "reality" is not actually reality. Words are delusions with many ambiguous connotative and denotative meanings. Everything you write and say is almost inevitably interpreted and experienced differently than you intended. It's just the nature of human language.

I've come to the conclusion I do not disport enough in my life.
 

TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
Premium Member
Let's hear some practical and applicable ideas that would work right now

That is just a reflection of this world, mostly a majority waiting for a quick fix, never prepared to do the hard work.

Every one of us has the choice to change at this very moment, thus the question is why won't we?

A remedy for a very ill patient always takes time after the elixer is given, a lot of times the patient refuses the remedy, thus the quandary will continue CG. The best one can do is partake of the elixer themselves, allow it to work and heal and then help and aid all others in their choices and when they are also ready to take the elixer aid in the recovery.

Regards Tony
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
The war now waging in this world against all that is of God and what is of man, is now our judgement. This is our judgement day, not only as an individual, but as a collective humanity.
If this is judgment day, the Baha'is are certainly not doing a very good job of explaining that to people. Instead, all they seem to do is sit around in meetings meeting with each other. How is anyone going to know this is judgment day, or does that even matter that people know?
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
If "plain" English is what you rely on, I pity you.
Nothing could have been more crystal clear.
It was not clear to me, but I just got here so I have no context.
English is what I rely upon because that is my language.
But if you do not want to explain it to me, fine.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I do not agree at all. People choose how they are going to experience reality. People with life threatening illness see everything they experience as proof the World is coming to an end. Where as enthusiastic and upbeat people see the World as a blessing from God with a bright future. You do know the word "reality" is not actually reality. Words are delusions with many ambiguous connotative and denotative meanings. Everything you write and say is almost inevitably interpreted and experienced differently than you intended. It's just the nature of human language.

I've come to the conclusion I do not disport enough in my life.
People choose how they are going to experience reality but that does not change reality.

If enthusiastic and upbeat people see the World as a blessing from God with a bright future that does not make that a reality. We either have a bright future or we do not.

If Christians believe that Jesus is going to return and fix everything that is wrong in this world that does not mean Jesus is going to return and fix everything that is wrong in this world. They cannot make Jesus return by believing.
 

TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
Premium Member
If this is judgment day, the Baha'is are certainly not doing a very good job of explaining that to people. Instead, all they seem to do is sit around in meetings meeting with each other. How is anyone going to know this is judgment day, or does that even matter that people know?
Not that I have noticed. All I see is Baha'is sitting around in meetings and meeting and meeting and meeting.

You might need to get out trailblazer.
Yeah, but the Jews think their messengers are the only right ones. The Christians think their messenger is the only right one. And the Muslims think theirs is the only real one. All three of the major religions reject the other's messengers and only except their own as important.

All the while it is the same source. The source that also feeds all other Messengers.

That is the challenge we all face and that to me is the Light of creation and the resulting darkness of our own ignorance.

This is How I see this world, as the White of Truth and the shades of darkness that are not that Truth.

Regards Tony
 

TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
Premium Member
If this is judgment day, the Baha'is are certainly not doing a very good job of explaining that to people. Instead, all they seem to do is sit around in meetings meeting with each other. How is anyone going to know this is judgment day, or does that even matter that people know?

God allows people to change their own hearts.

If it is not working, we have not changed our hearts, we were warned that we are not exempt from the opression of these times.

In saying that, I see and know many are out and about doing amazing things, maybe it's time for all to get involved in community service, what says you?

Regards Tony
 
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