Signs of the Times - What’s happening to our world?

[Trailblazer]

Post #172 is yours. If I got it wrong I need to get my eyes checked out!

Yes, that was my post, and it was meant to respond to what Spartan said.

Spartan said that Jesus hasn't returned according to the Bible.

I said that Jesus has returned according to the Writings of Baha'u'llah.

If you want me to explain what that passage means I would be more than happy to do that.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

What do you think I will find?

What you did find was a post I did not know I posted

In writing that, I knew it was hypocritical, as it was reflection my own agitated heart, thus I changed what I was trying to say.

I think you would find many loving people just trying to make a better world and an Administrative System that allows that to be done in a way that can cope with entry by troops.

Regards Tony

 

[TransmutingSoul]

It seemed pretty empty without any meaning. All it did was talk about the teaching. It never taught. I guess being empty without meaning is the lesson!

That is one talk in a series, it goes on to practical implementation in our daily lives when one follows the links provided after that talk.

All the best in life and health.

Regards Tony

 

[Trailblazer]

God allows people to change their own hearts.

If it is not working, we have not changed our hearts, we were warned that we are not exempt from the opression of these times.

Sorry, I am a straight shooter.
People are not going to just suddenly wake up one day and decide to change their own hearts.
They have to have a reason to want to do that.

How many people know about Baha'u'lah?
How is it their fault that they don't know?
The responsibility to tell them rests fully on the Bahais, according to Baha'u'llah:

“O ye beloved of God! Repose not yourselves on your couches, nay bestir yourselves as soon as ye recognize your Lord, the Creator, and hear of the things which have befallen Him, and hasten to His assistance. Unloose your tongues, and proclaim unceasingly His Cause. This shall be better for you than all the treasures of the past and of the future, if ye be of them that comprehend this truth.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 330

 

[Trailblazer]

I think you would find many loving people just trying to make a better world and an Administrative System that allows that to be done in a way that can cope with entry by troops.

How will there ever be entry by troops when hardly anyone even knows about the Baha'i Faith?
Are people just going to suddenly wake up one day and decide to become Baha'is?
Let's be realistic.

All the Administrative System administrates is the Baha'is.
I have had it with an Administrative System that does not even promote teaching, because that goes against what Abdu'l-Baha and Baha'u'llah told us we are supposed to be doing, day and night. They did not tell us to sit around in meetings. Abdu'l-Baha certainly did not sit around in meetings, did he?

 

[Trailblazer]

I think you would find many loving people

I agree, I would find loving people, but if love was enough, Christianity would have been sufficient to build the Kingdom of God on earth. We need more than loving Baha'is loving each other and others. I cannot say exactly what we need to do, but I know we need to do more than we are doing.

This coronavirus pandemic could be a wake-up call not only to the world at large but also to the Baha'is, but I am just one Baha'i with an opinion, so I have no sway.

 

[aeon6]

Yet again, "god" speaks through the imbeciles. As long as you externalize divinity through archaic means, rest assured in a mediocre legacy. I suspect the corpses are piling up for dignified disposal with funeral and such, yet we'll soon consign ourselves to sanitary cremation for hygiene mandates.
Do or die becomes the caustic phrase of the day, more so than even during the black plague.

 

[Trailblazer]

Yet again, "god" speaks through the imbeciles. As long as you externalize divinity through archaic means, rest assured in a mediocre legacy.

Who are these imbeciles?
How do you think God should speak, or should God speak at all?

 

[aeon6]

You still capitalize god as if some deity. Gratefully you and I are separated by more than an ocean.

 

[Trailblazer]

You still capitalize god as if some deity. Gratefully you and I are separated by more than an ocean.

What is wrong with capitalizing God?
What is wrong with believing in God?
Do you believe there is a god?
I am a straight shooter, I do not do indirect conversation very well.

 

[Spirit of Light]

What is wrong with capitalizing God?
What is wrong with believing in God?

There is nothing wrong in saying God with a capitalized G And there is definitely nothing wrong in believing in a God or following the teaching of God, Buddha and other great teacher of spiritual awakening

 

[aeon6]

If you rely on me to answer those, pity is apropos.
And indirect or oblique reference serves to challenge exactly where it is needed. If you'd rather have a Xtian conformist realm, consider how utterly dull that would be. And they breed like there was no tomorrow, flaunting inferior dna as a matter of insolent pride.

 

[Trailblazer]

If you rely on me to answer those, pity is apropos.

I do not rely on you, I just wanted your opinion, but obviously I am not going to get anything but obfuscation.

It is a sign of arrogance when people say it is a pity you don't understand me, but sadly, arrogant people are too arrogant to understand why.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

. They did not tell us to sit around in meetings. Abdu'l-Baha certainly did not sit around in meetings, did he?

One of the main goals for the LSA is to promote teaching and deepening activities.

. ‘Abdu’l-Bahá has written that the discussions of a Local Spiritual Assembly “must all be confined to spiritual matters that pertain to the training of souls, the instruction of children, the relief of the poor, the help of the feeble throughout all classes in the world, kindness to all peoples, the diffusion of the fragrances of God and the exaltation of His Holy Word.”

The Local Spiritual Assembly | What Bahá’ís Believe

Have you been on one? I can assure you it is a busy job.

Regards Tony

 

[Spartan]

But Jesus has returned according to the Writings of Baha'u'llah.

“O kings of Christendom! Heard ye not the saying of Jesus, the Spirit of God, "I go away, and come again unto you"? 2 Wherefore, then, did ye fail, when He did come again unto you in the clouds of heaven, to draw nigh unto Him, that ye might behold His face, and be of them that attained His Presence? In another passage He saith: "When He, the Spirit of Truth, is come, He will guide you into all truth." 3 And yet behold how, when He did bring the truth, ye refused to turn your faces towards Him, and persisted in disporting yourselves with your pastimes and fancies. Ye welcomed Him not, neither did ye seek His Presence, that ye might hear the verses of God from His own mouth, and partake of the manifold wisdom of the Almighty, the All-Glorious, the All-Wise.” The Summons of the Lord of Hosts, p. 191

The Bible says every eye shall see him when he returns. That's hasn't happened yet either, especially with non-believers.

 

[aeon6]

And here you are squabbling instead of taking a hint. How far away from your prime directive will you allow yourself to be distracted? As I've learned countless times, americans are very averse to being corrected, especially when they are cornered with obvious inconvenient facts. If you need me to enumerate them, you're not paying attention enough.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

The Bible says every eye shall see him when he returns. That's hasn't happened yet either, especially with non-believers.

I see it is not an instantaneous event, it unfolds overtime when every eye shall see.

That is how we now can see the Glory of God in Jesus the Christ, every eye witnesses that glory, even if they have not accepted it.

Regards Tony

 

[Trailblazer]

Have you been on one? I can assure you it is a busy job.

Yes, I have been on an LSA.

The LSAs do their best but they are not infallible, only Baha'u'llah is infallible.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Yes, I have been on an LSA.

The LSAs do their best but they are not infallible, only Baha'u'llah is infallible.

That's how it works, we try to do our best and 'little by little day by day' we change our own selves.

It never unfolds instantaneously. I do see an event will come where Shoghi Effendi said it will be seen in the news and then overnight the world changes, my guess this is when the cities topple, skyscrapers will fall like a stacked pack of cards.

Nearly all the big cities are coastal, built on shifting foundations.

In the end we know that this civilisation and the material greed will vanish, as all civilisations that have reached the same position have faced.

Until then, little by little day by day and it is God that changes our hearts and I see in the writings that we have to be open to that potential, before the gift can be given.

Regards Tony

 

[Trailblazer]

The Bible says every eye shall see him when he returns. That's hasn't happened yet either, especially with non-believers.

There arise definite problems when the Bible says different things in different verses.

The Bible also says that not everyone will see Him because He will come as a thief in the night.

Luke 12:39 And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.

Matthew 24:42-44 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

How do you suppose every eye on earth would see Jesus if Jesus descended from the sky in the clouds?
I believe these verses have a meaning that you are unaware of and I will share that with you later if you want to know.