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Simple answer please

Kolibri

Well-Known Member
If that is the criterion, then even the Christian God fails.

Numbers 31, 1-2
"And the LORD spoke unto Moses, saying:
'Avenge the children of Israel of the Midianites; afterward shalt thou be gathered unto thy people.'"

The Israelites were a nation with land and borders. The Christians are a nation w/o land and borders. The rules changed partly because of this.

Where the Israelites rightly protected what was within their borders as residents of God's Kingdom, Christians were to live in all nations as foreign dignitaries representing God's Kingdom.
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
If that is the criterion, then even the Christian God fails.

Numbers 31, 1-2
"And the LORD spoke unto Moses, saying:
'Avenge the children of Israel of the Midianites; afterward shalt thou be gathered unto thy people.'"

Oh no, that has nothing to do with the requirements of Christians under the Messiah.

Under Moses, the Israelites needed an army for protection from enemy nations. Under the Messiah, things changed.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
But did the Messiah replace the God, like Zeus replacing Kronos, or Kronos replacing Uranus?
The Israelites were a nation with land and borders. The Christians are a nation w/o land and borders.
Since the Christians are a nation w/o land and border, they created may-hem all over the world.
 
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Kolibri

Well-Known Member
Perhaps I should say "true Christians" instead of "Christians". A good and honorable label can create great harm when it is not lived up to.

"However, there also came to be false prophets among the people, as there will also be false teachers among you. These will quietly bring in destructive sects, and they will even disown the owner who bought them, bringing speedy destruction upon themselves. Furthermore, many will follow their brazen conduct, (or "their acts of shameless conduct.", being the plural of the Greek a-sel'gei'a) and because of them the way of the truth will be spoken of abusively."
- 2 Peter 2:1,2

But did the Messiah replace the God, like Zeus replacing Kronos, or Kronos replacing Uranus?Since the Christians are a nation w/o land and border, they created may-hem all over the world.

And no, Jesus did not replace his Father. Instead he is being used as Jehovah's Chief Agent to accomplish his will for the Devil's works to be broken up. Jesus' God and Father, Jehovah, is still very much in the picture.

"For this purpose the Son of God was made manifest, to break up (or, "destroy.") the works of the Devil."
- 1 John 3:8b

"God exalted this one as Chief Agent and Savior to his right hand, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins. And we are witnesses of these matters, and so is the holy spirit, which God has given to those obeying him as ruler."
- Acts 5:31,32

"Jesus said to her:'...go to my brothers and say to them, "I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and to your God."'"
- John 20:17
 
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Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Oh, YHWH abdicated in favor of the Son and the Son failed, because as you say, there were/are hardly any true Christians.
 

Hawkins

Well-Known Member
A few Christian denominations view other denominations such as Catholicism a Babylonian faith and mark of the devil.

Are there other denominations in this "Evil" category? Or is it just Catholicism?

Yes? No?

If you have exclusions, which 99% people here usually do, give me a list of what denominations you (or a denominations you know of) who view this list as evil.


Need to add more than a list? You can. Explain why the denomini you listed are evil.

I know a lot of denominations and if you mention one such as Lutherian you dont need to go into detail. They split from Catholicism and still have what some catholic elements in it. Hence, I know the opinion.

If you have to debate, please keep it on topic. I know how anti Catholics feel about Catholism.

What about other faiths? What are they? Are they Babylonian? How so?

Please noooo Catholicism. No bashing faiths.

The Bible (especially NT) is an advocate on under what condition one can be saved in terms of a covenant. So any deviation from such a said condition will not be able to save humans. Such an illegal alternate condition set besides what the Bible says, is thus evil.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
The Bible (especially NT) is an advocate on under what condition one can be saved in terms of a covenant. So any deviation from such a said condition will not be able to save humans. Such an illegal alternate condition set besides what the Bible says, is thus evil.
What couple of denominations outside catholicism and its off shoots (lutherian, pres. Episco) fit that condition?
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Are there non Catholic related denominationz that are false teachings? As by JW standards.


All trinity based religions = Mark 3:24-26--- they are all wrong.
The trinity god does not exist--the Israelites in the ot--served YHVH)Jehovah) a single being God.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
All trinity based religions = Mark 3:24-26--- they are all wrong.
The trinity god does not exist--the Israelites in the ot--served YHVH)Jehovah) a single being God.
Which denominations other than catholic and their offshoots? Can you name three or four or so?
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Which denominations other than catholic and their offshoots? Can you name three or four or so?


They needent be named--There is no trinity God in existence--trinity translations are erred to fit Catholicism council false teachings.
The greeks were refusing to go to a religion with a single God,( they had many gods) so they invented a trinity at those councils. In the first council of Nicea--no trinity god, not until after at another council.
They wanted their celebrations as well so pagan practices were instilled into Christmas and Easter to appease them. Jesus would never accept anything that originated on the table of demons- 1Cor 10:21)
Trinity religions became a house divided( Mark 3:24-26--they will not stand--because they have 0 unity of thought-1Cor 1:10)
Jesus started 1 single religion--one truth--one faith--one God. It was murdered back then along with the apostles and then the Christians-- this popped up-2Thess 2:3--until these last days then in order for these to be true-Daniel 12:4--John 4:22-24) Jesus real religion came back and fixed all the errors.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
They needent be named--There is no trinity God in existence--trinity translations are erred to fit Catholicism council false teachings.
The greeks were refusing to go to a religion with a single God,( they had many gods) so they invented a trinity at those councils. In the first council of Nicea--no trinity god, not until after at another council.
They wanted their celebrations as well so pagan practices were instilled into Christmas and Easter to appease them. Jesus would never accept anything that originated on the table of demons- 1Cor 10:21)
Trinity religions became a house divided( Mark 3:24-26--they will not stand--because they have 0 unity of thought-1Cor 1:10)
Jesus started 1 single religion--one truth--one faith--one God. It was murdered back then along with the apostles and then the Christians-- this popped up-2Thess 2:3--until these last days then in order for these to be true-Daniel 12:4--John 4:22-24) Jesus real religion came back and fixed all the errors.


All denominations? Not focusing on trinity here. Any other denomi outside of catholic and its off-shoots that are supposed to have false teachings. A few would do and how in your words only
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
All denominations? Not focusing on trinity here. Any other denomi outside of catholic and its off-shoots that are supposed to have false teachings. A few would do and how in your words only


There aren't many religions left that claim to be Christian-- I can only think of 3 others--- Mormons, Unitarians, Jehovah witness religions.
When one learns and applys every teaching from Jesus--they can see clearly who is correct. God handed that key to everyone for free when he spoke from heaven at Jesus' baptism, he said--- This is my son the beloved in whom I am well pleased--LISTEN TO HIM.
I attended many trinity churches back in the day--they didn't teach what Jesus taught. They tickled ears.
One of the other keys to seeing who is correct is by applying the teaching that one was to be no part of this world---that means they would be way different than the rest.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
There aren't many religions left that claim to be Christian-- I can only think of 3 others--- Mormons, Unitarians, Jehovah witness religions.
When one learns and applys every teaching from Jesus--they can see clearly who is correct. God handed that key to everyone for free when he spoke from heaven at Jesus' baptism, he said--- This is my son the beloved in whom I am well pleased--LISTEN TO HIM.
I attended many trinity churches back in the day--they didn't teach what Jesus taught. They tickled ears.
One of the other keys to seeing who is correct is by applying the teaching that one was to be no part of this world---that means they would be way different than the rest.

Unitarian, how so? Also LDS, Im assuming.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Unitarian, how so? Also LDS, Im assuming.


Arent Lds=Mormons?-- Unitarian, Mormons, Jehovah witness--believe in a single being God--and that Jesus is not God, but Gods son.
The Israelites serve a single being God--from Moses on up until today. YHVH(Jehovah)
 

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
A few Christian denominations view other denominations such as Catholicism a Babylonian faith and mark of the devil.

Are there other denominations in this "Evil" category? Or is it just Catholicism?

Yes? No?

If you have exclusions, which 99% people here usually do, give me a list of what denominations you (or a denominations you know of) who view this list as evil.


Need to add more than a list? You can. Explain why the denomini you listed are evil.

I know a lot of denominations and if you mention one such as Lutherian you dont need to go into detail. They split from Catholicism and still have what some catholic elements in it. Hence, I know the opinion.

If you have to debate, please keep it on topic. I know how anti Catholics feel about Catholism.

What about other faiths? What are they? Are they Babylonian? How so?

Please noooo Catholicism. No bashing faiths.

I get a kick out of the other Christian religions that bash the Catholic Church and call her Pagan and evil.

The majority of things these people point to as evil - can be traced back to the Hebrew/Jews.

Asking intercession from Saints? The Hebrew asked dead relatives, and special holy people, to intercede for them with God.

Gold and wealth? Look up the Tanakh verses telling the people to give gold, silver, jewels, and the finest cloth to the church and priests. Verses saying to make Temple things out of Gold, etc.

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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I find horrible to see other faiths as evil. Catholicm gets so much mess that I was depressed being a part of it. People called us followerers of the devil. One lady I live near is seventy or so years old. She started crying when I was working and told me that she was so upset protestants think they (Catholics as she is one) dont love God and Jesus as they do. We have baptist and non denomination here too. They are harsh with catholics. Its like they sre tearing up catholics heartz and everyday I read and hear it and it hurts me too.

I know how JW feel about Catholics. I know the scriptures they use to denounce religions they feel dont add up to Gods. I was wondering if other faiths are on their list and Not Just catholics and their offshoots.

I get a kick out of the other Chiristian religions that bash the Catholic Church and call her Pagan and evil.

The majority of things these people point to as evil - can be traced back to the Hebrew/Jews.

Asking intercession from Saints? The Hebrew asked dead relatives, and special holy people, to intercede for them with God.

Gold and wealth? Look up the Tanakh verses telling the people to give gold, silver, jewels, and the finest cloth to the church and priests. Verses saying to make Temple things out of Gold, etc.

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Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
A few Christian denominations view other denominations such as Catholicism a Babylonian faith and mark of the devil.

Are there other denominations in this "Evil" category? Or is it just Catholicism?

Yes? No?
Here are a couple of statements from former LDS leaders. There are a lot more like them, but I like these two best:

“The great religious leaders of the world such as Mohammed, Confucius, and the Reformers, as well as philosophers including Socrates, Plato, and others, received a portion of God’s light. Moral truths were given to them by God to enlighten whole nations and to bring a higher level of understanding to individuals.”

“While the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is established for the instruction of men, it is ONE of God’s instrumentalities for making known the truth; yet God is not limited to that institution for such purposes, neither in time nor place. He raises up wise men and prophets here and there among all the children of men, of their own tongue and nationality, speaking to them through means that they can comprehend; not always giving a fulness of truth such as may be found in the fulness of the gospel of Jesus Christ; but always giving that measure of truth that the people are prepared to receive. Mormonism holds, then, that all the great teachers are servants of God among all nations and in all ages. They are inspired men, appointed to instruct God’s children according to the conditions in the midst of which he finds them… Whenever God finds a soul sufficiently enlightened and pure; one with whom His Spirit can communicate, lo! He makes of him a teacher of men.”


 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Here are a couple of statements from former LDS leaders. There are a lot more like them, but I like these two best:

“The great religious leaders of the world such as Mohammed, Confucius, and the Reformers, as well as philosophers including Socrates, Plato, and others, received a portion of God’s light. Moral truths were given to them by God to enlighten whole nations and to bring a higher level of understanding to individuals.”

“While the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is established for the instruction of men, it is ONE of God’s instrumentalities for making known the truth; yet God is not limited to that institution for such purposes, neither in time nor place. He raises up wise men and prophets here and there among all the children of men, of their own tongue and nationality, speaking to them through means that they can comprehend; not always giving a fulness of truth such as may be found in the fulness of the gospel of Jesus Christ; but always giving that measure of truth that the people are prepared to receive. Mormonism holds, then, that all the great teachers are servants of God among all nations and in all ages. They are inspired men, appointed to instruct God’s children according to the conditions in the midst of which he finds them… Whenever God finds a soul sufficiently enlightened and pure; one with whom His Spirit can communicate, lo! He makes of him a teacher of men.”

Christian denominations that believe in Christ not other faiths and reformers.

Also, the red blinds me.

Example:

Christian denominatio at does not teach Jesus divinity

LDS
Jehovah witness
and some cant think of

Those that do

Baptist
catholic
pentecostal
And catholoc off shoots

Denominations that seem denomic to JW

Catholicism
lutheren
Any supposed organization

Yet, that is ALL I see here. Bashing Catholics.

Is there other denominations that Are Demonic to which JW completely belittles other than Catholicsm?

Your verses give me Why. I am asking for what/which (a small list).

I know why you guys dont like catholicism. What other "christian denominations" are on that list of hate?
 
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