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Simple Not Easy

PoetPhilosopher

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Im in a strange pensive and solemn mood. Not sure why. Maybe i should avoid this thread for a bit. Otherwise my replies may get darker.

It's up to you.

I'm sorry if I may have triggered anything. Since this thread was in the philosophy forum, I just wanted to pitch the idea that love may be simple but "not easy".
 

VoidCat

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It's up to you.

I'm sorry if I may have triggered anything. Since this thread was in the philosophy forum, I just wanted to pitch the idea that love may be simple but "not easy".
You didn't. I've been in that mood for while today. Just read my replies to this thread.
 

dybmh

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That may be.

But I'm not sure that makes it complex, so much as "not easy".

My vote: emotions are normally layered and cascading one into another into an experience which is supra-rational. This layering and cascading is complex. There are infinite combinations permutations in the spectrum of emotion.

Although there are rare circumstances where only 1 emotion presents itself. Love, can be pure and simple, but it's rare.
 

PoetPhilosopher

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My vote: emotions are normally layered and cascading one into another into an experience which is supra-rational. This layering and cascading is complex. There are infinite combinations permutations in the spectrum of emotion.

Sometimes, it's best not to feel in that manner either, though. Though sometimes, it's hard not to.

An example: Combining "love" with "jealousy"
 

dybmh

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Sometimes, it's best not to feel in that manner either, though. Though sometimes, it's hard not to.

An example: Combining "love" with "jealousy"

And so, it often becomes complicated and rarely is easy?
 

dybmh

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I believe you can train yourself to separate them, but that it requires a lot of self-awareness.

Ok. Maybe so. It's interesting to consider it, because I imagine the layering and combining as moderating the emotions. In purity and isolation, I imagine emotions would become extreme. Perhaps if there is also a method for minimizing the emotions in addition to isolation?
 

PoetPhilosopher

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Ok. Maybe so. It's interesting to consider it, because I imagine the layering and combining as moderating the emotions. In purity and isolation, I imagine emotions would become extreme. Perhaps if there is also a method for minimizing the emotions in addition to isolation?

I think a really "healthy" version of love, doesn't actually involve mixing many additional emotions, for example.

When you look at unhealthy relationships, you see that some love may have at some time existed, but that many additional emotions may have gotten mixed in, including "fear" and possibly even "hate".
 

dybmh

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I think a really "healthy" version of love, doesn't actually involve mixing many additional emotions, for example.

When you look at unhealthy relationships, you see that some love may have at some time existed, but that many additional emotions may have gotten mixed in, including "fear" and possibly even "hate".

When I consider healthy love it is always partnered with restraint. Restraint is not often considered an emotion, but, I include it.

If I love someone, and they do not love me in the same way, the healthy reaction is to restrain my pure love for them and give them space, love from a distance.

Healthy love is moderated with restraint. Healthy restraint is moderated with love.
 

PoetPhilosopher

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When I consider healthy love it is always partner with restraint. Restraint is not often considered an emotion, but, I include it.

If I love someone, and they do not love mein the same way, the healthy reaction is to restrain my pure love for them and give them space, love from a distance.

I categorize it differently, myself, admittedly. Rather than a restraint category, I have a "respect personal autonomy" category.

There's always the chance I may need a restraint category, emotions are complex and you never know - but I haven't made one because I feel it hasn't become an issue for me.
 

dybmh

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Im in a strange pensive and solemn mood. Not sure why. Maybe i should avoid this thread for a bit. Otherwise my replies may get darker.

Sorry, I just noticed this post. Please know your dark posts are welcome here.

In fact it would be good to get some dark concepts which are simple but not easy. I mentioned earlier that my impression of the replies is that they're all good, some very good.

For balance it would be good to get some darkness in here. ( not that dark is the opposite of good. But you know what I mean. )
 

PoetPhilosopher

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@dybmh - I have a theory where we might be seeing things differently. It's, that I'm using the logical side of my mind to temper emotions, and you might be using emotions to temper emotions and solve the logical side that way.

IMO.
 

VoidCat

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Sorry, I just noticed this post. Please know your dark posts are welcome here.

In fact it would be good to get some dark concepts which are simple but not easy. I mentioned earlier that my impression of the replies is that they're all good, some very good.

For balance it would be good to get some darkness in here. ( not that dark is the opposite of good. But you know what I mean. )
I know. But I was saying for my benefit it may be good to avoid replying a bit. just cuz of how my emotions have been lately
 
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