Sir Elton John boycotts Dolce & Gabbana after row over same-sex families

[BSM1]

How so?

Well, since gay couples cannot naturally produce children the children would exist before the fact. Wouldn't they?

 

[gsa]

Well, since gay couples cannot naturally produce children the children would exist before the fact. Wouldn't they?

Not if they were created through artificial insemination they wouldn't.

Also, we are probably about three years away max from having children that are the product of two males (two females is a bit trickier).

 

[BSM1]

Not if they were created through artificial insemination they wouldn't.

Also, we are probably about three years away max from having children that are the product of two males (two females is a bit trickier).

You're missing the point. Even if one of the couples were artificially knocked-up it really wouldn't be the product of the marriage.

 

[gsa]

You're missing the point. Even if one of the couples were artificially knocked-up it really wouldn't be the product of the marriage.

But again, the child wouldn't exist without the decision of the parents. As is the case with an infertile couple, or a couple who is not compatible genetically.

 

[columbus]

You're missing the point. Even if one of the couples were artificially knocked-up it really wouldn't be the product of the marriage.

You are missing the point.
Little humans are still humans regardless of the decisions of their parents.
Tom

 

[Revoltingest]

I bet you look really good in your simple outfit of steel toed work boots, Mr "I only just found out that most guys only have 6 inches".

Tom

Me kilt keeps lesser men from being envious, straight women from swooning, & everyone else from hurling.....not the kind of hurling ya find at Scottish games.

 

[columbus]

Me kilt keeps lesser men from being envious, straight women from swooning, & everyone else from hurling.....not the kind of hurling ya find at Scottish games.

Iz thT a D&G kilt?

Tom

 

[dgirl1986]

I found out about this yesterday. I am not surprised but it still really annoys me. They probably annoyed a lot of gay celebrities and gay celebrities with kids.

 

[Revoltingest]

Iz thT a D&G kilt?

Tom

Kilts R Us....of course!

 

[columbus]

Me kilt keeps lesser men from being envious, straight women from swooning, & everyone else from hurling.....not the kind of hurling ya find at Scottish games.

Keep your kilt on and your hands on top of your head while @dantech and I deeply and thoroughly get to the bottom of this.
Oh, and lean over the trunk of the car. Spread your legs further. That's a good boy.

Tom

 

[Bunyip]

Of course I somewhat agree with D&G. You know me by now. Lol. I heard this story earlier today at work. D&G said they were only stating their opinions. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Every child definitely needs a mother and a father. Not two fathers. I'm indifferent about artificial insemination and surrogacy. To each, their own. I think it's wise that people calm down with trying to have babies until we reflect on how the choices we make will impact the childrens' lives. A child with gay parents is unfortunately cursed. People need to stop with all the selfishness. Children are not little accessories. They have souls that will have to answer to God someday. If someone wants to destroy their own self, fine, but no one should destroy others as well, especially children.

But how exactly are gay parents 'destroying' others? The research shows that children from same sex couples tend to do very well, and have no greater likelyhood of being homosexual in later life than any other kids. So in what way are the children of gay couples cursed?

Just FYI by the way, I raised my child on my own and so can only assume you think that one father is even more 'destructive' and 'cursed' than two fathers. You should meet my son, he's wonderful. Lastly if you think any child would be better off in a state institution than in a loving homosexual family, you are not thinking.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Kilts R Us....of course!

The real question is, of course, do you wear it proper?

 

[Revoltingest]

The real question is, of course, do you wear it proper?

Ayek!
Never down around me ankles!

 

[BSM1]

You are missing the point.
Little humans are still humans regardless of the decisions of their parents.
Tom

But, as far back as anyone can remember, those little humans required a man and a woman in some capacity to even exist.

 

[gsa]

But, as far back as anyone can remember, those little humans required a man and a woman in some capacity to even exist.

Only genetic material. And as I said, we are on the verge of eliminating that requirement.

When that happens, what's the response?

 

[columbus]

But, as far back as anyone can remember, those little humans required a man and a woman in some capacity to even exist.

But I was refering to this:

"You're missing the point. Even if one of the couples were artificially knocked-up it really wouldn't be the product of the marriage."

Children aren't the product of marriage, ever.
Sometimes single people get pregnant. Sometimes married people get pregnant.
Sometimes married people get pregnant with someone other than their spouse.
No connection between a child and the parents choices.
Tom

 

[Shadow Wolf]

But, as far back as anyone can remember, those little humans required a man and a woman in some capacity to even exist.

They may require a sperm and ovum, but they do not require parents of any particular sex or gender to be raised into normal members of society. There are even some cultures that very loosely define paternity as the first guy who steps up and claim responsibility. In such arrangements it's usually one of the husands that the woman has, even if the man may not even have a chance at being the biological father.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Not if they were created through artificial insemination they wouldn't.

Also, we are probably about three years away max from having children that are the product of two males (two females is a bit trickier).

How is it trickier between two females? I thought it was the other way around. (Don't ruin my dream, man!)

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I found out about this yesterday. I am not surprised but it still really annoys me. They probably annoyed a lot of gay celebrities and gay celebrities with kids.

Yeah, Elton John and Ricky Martin were mentioned. Ricky has sons through a surrogate.

 

[gsa]

They may require a sperm and ovum, but they do not require parents of any particular sex or gender to be raised into normal members of society. There are even some cultures that very loosely define paternity as the first guy who steps up and claim responsibility. In such arrangements it's usually one of the husands that the woman has, even if the man may not even have a chance at being the biological father.

Indeed, some states in the US have a virtually irrebutable presumption that a child born within a marriage is the product of that marriage, even if it was the result of an extramarital affair.