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Slovakia is banning Muslim immigration.
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Yes, it certainly would be! Just like others who are non-Christians feel threatened by Evangelicals who say this is a Christian Nation. Oops, the shoe fits on the other foot.
Yes, it certainly would be! Just like others who are non-Christians feel threatened by Evangelicals who say this is a Christian Nation. Oops, the shoe fits on the other foot.
So given what we know about Islam and the behavior of Muslim
you have no objection to this nation becoming an Islamic nation.
What's the difference, to you, if this nation is predominantly Christian
or Islamic?
Apparently you couldn't possibly care less if the U.S. becomes
an Islamic State but you object to the U.S. being predominantly
Christian.
Apparently liberal posters here don't mind one bit living under Sharia Law.
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Yes, it certainly would be! Just like others who are non-Christians feel threatened by Evangelicals who say this is a Christian Nation. Oops, the shoe fits on the other foot.
The objection to living in an Islamic State would the the imposition
of Sharia law.
Perhaps you need do some study on what Sharia law is and
how it impacts people.
Under Sharia Law a woman suspected of cheating on her husband
can be publicly whipped or even or even killed, gays are executed,
and there's a whole lot more you should know before you blindly
accept an Islamic American.
I see Shadow. You won't mind one bit living under Sharia Law
then would you???????
A brief few rules under Sharia Law that some here won't mind.
According to the Sharia law:
• Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand (above).
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Muhammad is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah, the moon god of Islam is punishable by death.
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (per Muhammad's words in Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A woman can have 1 husband, but a man can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife but a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
• Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
• A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed only in property cases, carries half the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to be eaten must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be Halal.
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
• The list goes on.
So is living in an Islamic Nation appealing to you?
According to the Sharia law:
• Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand (above).
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Muhammad is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah, the moon god of Islam is punishable by death.
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (per Muhammad's words in Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A woman can have 1 husband, but a man can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife but a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
• Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
• A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed only in property cases, carries half the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to be eaten must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be Halal.
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
• The list goes on.
So is living in an Islamic Nation appealing to you?
First, I think you well know that this is NOT a question of ethnicity, so let's not obfuscate.
Second, I do NOT agree that Islam is simply a "religious belief", instead I believe it's a totalitarian ideology with a religious facet. And the political aspects of Islam are indeed "brain dead", to use your term.
How I answer the question is simple. Look at the individuals and decide if they individually are problems. You on the other hand see all Muslims as the problem. In reality, that mentality that you have, is the actual problem. Maybe we should start deporting the group you belong to, since you as an individual are biased against entire groups of people, disregarding their individuality? Deport all Jehovah's Witnesses, or something like that?
I see anyone who supports Sharia is a person who should not be allowed to immigrate. So why not ask immigration candidates what their stance on Sharia is?
Yerda
Veteran Member
Who is posting in favour of Sharia?
Apparently you don't know much about them yourself. I know plenty of Muslims and they have no visions of turning this nation into an extension of their religion - unlike fundamentalist Christians who seek to make this a Christian nation. The Muslims I know are better behaved.
I prefer this nation to be secular, where it protects us from the nutjobs within the various religions who seek to impose themselves upon others, be those certain individuals within Islam, or right-wing Christians. I respect the right for all faiths to exist and practice their religions as they see fit, which means protecting other's rights not to participate. Do you value that, or do you think this nation should be Christian nation without Muslims, Hindus, atheists, and the like? Do you think this nation should have your version of Jesus Christ as the President? In other words, a Christian Theocracy?
I object to either of the choices. I prefer it to be an open and free society for all faiths. What about you? No? Not so much? You prefer it to be your religion? I see......
I would hate it! I would also hate having Christianity legislated by the Senate of the United States. You wouldn't mind that though, I suppose. What exactly is it that makes you different from them again?
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
Oh, okay. So because the infidel does it that makes it okay for Muslims to do the same thing. Don't you think you're trailing near the bottom if you're using the behaviour of the immoral non-believer as a benchmark for your own conduct? Oh, and 'it's okay because you do it too' is playground logic.
How wonderfully ironic it is that you're posting links to anti-Islamic websites to make your point.
Edit: I made a mistake while reading Godobeyer's post; she didn't actually give links to any anti-Islamic website; that was somebody she was responding to.
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WindWalker said:
I completely agree with you that we need a secular society. I also agree that living under Christian fundamentalism would also be heinous.
The point that I think is important is that religious fundamentalism - in general - is far too often the tail wagging the dog. This thread is about Muslim immigration, and the fact that I want to keep Islamic fundamentalists from immigrating is distinct from the issues of fundamentalism in other religions. I oppose those as well, but strictly speaking that's a topic for another thread.
This is important, because what we see over and over again on this forum is "two wrongs make it right" logic.
I completely agree with you that we need a secular society. I also agree that living under Christian fundamentalism would also be heinous.
The point that I think is important is that religious fundamentalism - in general - is far too often the tail wagging the dog. This thread is about Muslim immigration, and the fact that I want to keep Islamic fundamentalists from immigrating is distinct from the issues of fundamentalism in other religions. I oppose those as well, but strictly speaking that's a topic for another thread.
This is important, because what we see over and over again on this forum is "two wrongs make it right" logic.
I believe the goal of Islam it total world domination.
Is that the goal of other religions?
By any means necessary?
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pages/iran/muslims_plan_for_world_dominance.htm
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pages/iran/muslims_plan_for_world_dominance.htm
http://www.inquiryintoislam.com/2010/08/islams-prime-directive.html
Islam's Prime Directive
The primary goal of Islam, according to its doctrine, is to bring the law of Allah (known as Sharia) to all people on earth. Sharia is the right way to live, and all people should be subject to it. Other religions also feel that they have the answer for everyone. What makes Islam different is the means their doctrine allows them to use.
Argue with the written and preached goal of Islam, not me.
Every Muslim supports this goal no matter how "nice" they seem
to you in the public world.
Wake up and smell the stench of defeat.
I could post literally dozens of sites including Islamic sites that espouse Islams
goal of WORLD DOMINATION.
Read this site if your liberal mind can handle it.
The primary goal of Islam, according to its doctrine, is to bring the law of Allah (known as Sharia) to all people on earth. Sharia is the right way to live, and all people should be subject to it. Other religions also feel that they have the answer for everyone. What makes Islam different is the means their doctrine allows them to use.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
This site (above) documents Islamic atrocities by the DAY.
Is that the goal of other religions?
By any means necessary?
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pages/iran/muslims_plan_for_world_dominance.htm
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pages/iran/muslims_plan_for_world_dominance.htm
http://www.inquiryintoislam.com/2010/08/islams-prime-directive.html
Islam's Prime Directive
The primary goal of Islam, according to its doctrine, is to bring the law of Allah (known as Sharia) to all people on earth. Sharia is the right way to live, and all people should be subject to it. Other religions also feel that they have the answer for everyone. What makes Islam different is the means their doctrine allows them to use.
Argue with the written and preached goal of Islam, not me.
Every Muslim supports this goal no matter how "nice" they seem
to you in the public world.
Wake up and smell the stench of defeat.
I could post literally dozens of sites including Islamic sites that espouse Islams
goal of WORLD DOMINATION.
Read this site if your liberal mind can handle it.
The primary goal of Islam, according to its doctrine, is to bring the law of Allah (known as Sharia) to all people on earth. Sharia is the right way to live, and all people should be subject to it. Other religions also feel that they have the answer for everyone. What makes Islam different is the means their doctrine allows them to use.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
This site (above) documents Islamic atrocities by the DAY.
I believe the Slovakian government made a statement that they wouldn't allow Muslim immigrants because there weren't any mosques in the country, and so they wouldn't be able to integrate. I am not sure why a mosque or two could not have been built, or why this could not have simply been left in the hands of the Muslims themselves to sort out as they saw fit, as generally happens. Of course, it's more because the parties in charge suspect they'll lose approval due to a strong sense of Islamophobia within a sizable proportion of the populace.
Really? How many? Which denominations? Using what means?
If you mean evangelizing that is a terrible comparison to what the
Islamic world endorses and a poor response indeed.
I've never heard of a group of Christian Missionaries issued AK- 47's and
rocket propelled grenades.
You said "some Christians". And are they part of an organized religious group
whose written dogma is World Domination.
You make a lousy argument comparing the Nation of Islam with "some Christians".
You seem to know less about Islam than you do Christianity.( or vice versa )
Well, the Lord's Resistance Army is a nice example.
But certainly, there is more outright violent fundamentalism in Islam than Christianity. Doesn't mean that's what Islam is.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
And there are no shortage of Christians who want the same. And, much like Islam, there are some that are willing, eager even, to use violence, intimidation, and terror to achieve those ends.
Well what is Islam then?
Did you miss the post that the goal of Islam IS WORLD DOMINATION?
What other religion has this as a written goal one wonders?
Name some and cite some examples please of these Christians that
attempt or espouse a goal of world domination?
Please, leave the hundreds years old ancient history of the Crusade
be dead in ancient history.
Anything past the 20th century would do just fine.