Yerda
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And they all advocate totalitarianism?
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Slovakia is banning Muslim immigration.
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leibowde84
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Talk about prejudice. This is disgusting. Thanks for sharing it though. Probably wouldn't have seen this otherwise.
If you view it from the perspective of European nations it does make
sense. Europe sees far more radical Muslim violence that we do
and they take a dim view of Muslims in general because of their
behavior.
Sweden has a 500% increase in rape attributed to the influx of Muslim immigration.
http://conservativepost.com/all-ame...-sweden-is-the-new-rape-capital-of-the-world/
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leibowde84
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a.k.a. prejudice against Muslims. I agree that there are plenty of Muslim Extremists out there, but they deserve the blame, not the peaceful Muslims. Generalizations like this are disgusting.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
So, you don't know any peaceful Muslims. Might want to get out of your comfort zone, because the vast majority are peaceful.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
Rape is always wrong, but the vast majority of Muslim males do not rape at all, so that is merely a straw-man.
Yerda
Veteran Member
Have you got an actual source for this claim?
Just the link I posted.
How do you know the "vast majority" do not...........?????????????
That is an unknowable statement based of personal feelings.
That is unless you know a few thousand Muslim men that you could
poll?
There are few Muslim around here but I do know a couple, doctors,
and they are not practicing Muslims.
Yerda
Veteran Member
It contains several claims but no reference to where the figures are from.
I typed, "Rape up 500% in Sweden" into my seach engine. Here are some results:
Sweden has the highest rate of rape in Europe, with the UN reporting 69 rape cases per 100,000 inhabitants in 2011, according to author and advocate of power feminism Naomi Wolf on opinion website Project Syndicate.
In 2010, Swedish police recorded the highest number of offences - about 63 per 100,000 inhabitants - of any force in Europe. That was the second highest in the world after Lesotho.
"According to rape crisis advocates in Sweden, one-third of Swedish women have been sexually assaulted by the time they leave their teens. According to a study published in 2003, and other later studies through 2009, Sweden has the highest sexual assault rate in Europe, and among the lowest conviction rates," Wolf wrote.
A 2010 Amnesty report said: "In Sweden, according to official crime statistics, the number of reported rapes has quadrupled during the past 20 years. In 2008, there were just over 4,000 rapes of people over 15, the great majority of them girls and women."
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/top-5-countries-highest-rates-rape-1434355
This wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden#Swedish_rape_statistics
Upon a quick scan I see no references to Islam or Muslim immigration in the body of the text or the references.
This BBC report: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19592372
I haven't fully read it yet. Have a look.
And there's this: http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2014/03/0...d-by-muslims-as-sexual-assaults-increase-500/
Which contains claims similar to those in the article you posted but again no references. Interestingly it does have stats similar to those in the IBT referenced study and the wiki page, but has laid the blams upon Islamic immigration rather than increased reporting or spiking use of alcohol. For instance, in the title it uses the 1 in 4 figure which is used elsewhere but it claims that these are all perpetrated by Muslims. I'm not a statistician but I reckon every Muslim man in Sweden would have to be raping at an incredible rate to get through a quarter of the female population of Sweden.
I didn't write the article. Merely posted some disturbing information.
http://conservativepost.com/all-ame...-sweden-is-the-new-rape-capital-of-the-world/
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Thanks to the staggering rise of Muslim immigrants, sexual assaults have increased 500% in the Scandinavian country.
Is this how we are supposedly “enriched” by diversity?
From the Counter Jihad Report:
With Muslims represented in as many as 77 percent of the rape cases and a major increase in rape cases paralleling a major increase in Muslim immigration, the wages of Muslim immigration are proving to be a sexual assault epidemic by a misogynistic ideology.
The escalation of rape in Sweden is so bad that in July of last year there were an average of five rapes a day reported in Stockholm. Think about that for a minute; five women being raped a day in a modern civilized city. This isn’t Afghanistan or Mexico we’re talking about; it’s Sweden.
I didn't write the article, merely posted some information.
Thanks for the links you posted.
http://conservativepost.com/all-ame...-sweden-is-the-new-rape-capital-of-the-world/
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Thanks to the staggering rise of Muslim immigrants, sexual assaults have increased 500% in the Scandinavian country.
Is this how we are supposedly “enriched” by diversity?
From the Counter Jihad Report:
With Muslims represented in as many as 77 percent of the rape cases and a major increase in rape cases paralleling a major increase in Muslim immigration, the wages of Muslim immigration are proving to be a sexual assault epidemic by a misogynistic ideology.
The escalation of rape in Sweden is so bad that in July of last year there were an average of five rapes a day reported in Stockholm. Think about that for a minute; five women being raped a day in a modern civilized city. This isn’t Afghanistan or Mexico we’re talking about; it’s Sweden.
I didn't write the article, merely posted some information.
Thanks for the links you posted.
Yerda
Veteran Member
From the BBC article:
The thing is, the number of reported rapes has been going up in Sweden - it's almost trebled in just the last seven years. In 2003, about 2,200 offences were reported by the police, compared to nearly 6,000 in 2010.
So something's going on.
But Klara Selin says the statistics don't represent a major crime epidemic, rather a shift in attitudes. The public debate about this sort of crime in Sweden over the past two decades has had the effect of raising awareness, she says, and encouraging women to go to the police if they have been attacked.
The police have also made efforts to improve their handling of cases, she suggests, though she doesn't deny that there has been some real increase in the number of attacks taking place - a concern also outlined in an Amnesty International report in 2010.
"There might also be some increase in actual crime because of societal changes. Due to the internet, for example, it's much easier these days to meet somebody, just the same evening if you want to. Also, alcohol consumption has increased quite a lot during this period.
"But the major explanation is partly that people go to the police more often, but also the fact that in 2005 there has been reform in the sex crime legislation, which made the legal definition of rape much wider than before."
The thing is, the number of reported rapes has been going up in Sweden - it's almost trebled in just the last seven years. In 2003, about 2,200 offences were reported by the police, compared to nearly 6,000 in 2010.
So something's going on.
But Klara Selin says the statistics don't represent a major crime epidemic, rather a shift in attitudes. The public debate about this sort of crime in Sweden over the past two decades has had the effect of raising awareness, she says, and encouraging women to go to the police if they have been attacked.
The police have also made efforts to improve their handling of cases, she suggests, though she doesn't deny that there has been some real increase in the number of attacks taking place - a concern also outlined in an Amnesty International report in 2010.
"There might also be some increase in actual crime because of societal changes. Due to the internet, for example, it's much easier these days to meet somebody, just the same evening if you want to. Also, alcohol consumption has increased quite a lot during this period.
"But the major explanation is partly that people go to the police more often, but also the fact that in 2005 there has been reform in the sex crime legislation, which made the legal definition of rape much wider than before."
I've been trying to look into Sweden's situation for a while now. There are many people making the claims that jeager is reporting. At the same time it does seem hard to get actual statistics. My guess is that the truth is somewhere in the middle. It's clear that Sweden has allowed a massive influx of Muslim immigrants over the last several decades. It's also clear that the Sweden government is heavily invested in the idea of "multi-culturalism". My sense is that there is some degree of government obfuscation going on, as it would be quite problematic for the government to publicly admit that there is a problem.
At the same time, I'm sure that there are other factors that are also increasing the number of rapes reported.
And finally, Islamic scripture provides LOTS of support for Muslim men who want to abuse infidel women.
At the same time, I'm sure that there are other factors that are also increasing the number of rapes reported.
And finally, Islamic scripture provides LOTS of support for Muslim men who want to abuse infidel women.
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
Actually in 2012 there were only around 20 - 50 Jews left in Syria. Most of them are elderly and won't go anywhere.
Another take on the OP...
I don't hear claims of Hindu-ophobia, nor do I hear claims of Sikh-ophobia, nor Buddhist-ophobia, and so on. So it would seem we can comfortably rule out ethnicity and "non Christian" as reasons why Slovakia would take such a stance.
Could it be that they've simply looked into Islam and have concluded that it's a problematic ideology?
I don't hear claims of Hindu-ophobia, nor do I hear claims of Sikh-ophobia, nor Buddhist-ophobia, and so on. So it would seem we can comfortably rule out ethnicity and "non Christian" as reasons why Slovakia would take such a stance.
Could it be that they've simply looked into Islam and have concluded that it's a problematic ideology?
morphesium
Active Member
I do agree that there are peaceful Muslims out there and generalizations like these are disgusting and it is discrimination. The problem is, the future generations of these peaceful muslims may not be that "peaceful". I know it is very bad to make such an assumption - but i am helpless.
I personally know muslims who even eat pork (in secrecy) and are alcoholic. Unfortunately, their kids are much more tied to their religion. (I do believe that it is due to kind of training these kids get in their religious class that is making them more and more "Islamic"). These parents are helpless - since their religion touches much of their day to day aspects from birth to death.
At one end you have a very addictive religion that accepts only muslims. For them, eliminating other people is just an holy act. So when their population gains an upper hand, nobody will listen to words of these peaceful muslims and they will try to implement sharia law. They won't accept that there morally higher civilized people out there than (Prophet) Muhammad.
To make matters worse, there is too much money in the hands of these religious heads and they are spending a lot in order to spread their religion (by what ever means). They will corrupt politics to suit their needs and fulfill their agendas. They spent a lot of money with the intention of converting "simple" believers into hardcore believers and terrorists. We know ISIS is barbaric, uncivilized and unethical people. What is the motivation that propels ISIS people? ( these people too are humans like you and me with same intelligence). Why do you think there are many ISIS supporters among muslim community?
what do you think the discrimination will be towards the non -muslims when their population gains an upper hand?
Huh. That's just shameful. You had 12 years! There were millions of them still to go at the end! Then Syria also collapses into a ball of slow-moving human tragedy, and before a decade is even out they're down to double-digits!? For shame.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
I don't think we should speculate about such future practices. These kinds of assumptions breed bigotry.