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If they aren't practicing Muslims, then they aren't Muslim.
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Slovakia is banning Muslim immigration.
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leibowde84
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Islam is a religion, or at least in the context you are using it surely is. So, how can they be Muslim if they don't adhere to Islam?
Islam is a totalitarian ideology with a religious facet. Some Muslims focus only on the religious facet.
leibowde84
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OK, but that doesn't change anything. If you don't adhere to Islam than you aren't a Muslim.
Millions of Muslims would disagree with you. I would say that most Muslims adhere to some aspects of Islam and disregard other aspects.
leibowde84
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You just changed the subject. Is someone that does not adhere to ANY aspect of Islam a Muslim?
A big problem is the changing definition of rape.
Most people perceive it as forcibly coercing someone into sex. But under Swedish law a guy can be indicted for rape if he doesn't mention that he is already married.
That is not the same.
Julian Assange was indicted for rape after his "victim" bragged on Facebook about banging The Julian Assange.
Tom
Most people don't see it that way. Josh Duggar is still a Christian, even if a very immoral one.
Tom
leibowde84
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I'm not talking about behavior, I'm only referring to beliefs. If one does not hold any of the beliefs associated with Islam, is that person a Muslim? Josh Duggar is a Christian because he does believe in certain Christian tenants.
Hmmm, when did someone claim that there were "Muslims" that don't hold ANY of the beliefs of Islam? (BTW, I'm sure that such people exist, but they'd probably mostly be underground.)
Yerda
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Some would have us believe that the increase shown in the stats is down to Muslims. As far as I can tell it's a lie being spread by neo-nazis and the right wing nutters blogsphere. And some people on RF.
That would also apply to the statement "Jehovah's Witnesses are mostly child molesters".
Tom
leibowde84
Veteran Member
I could well believe it is a result of Muslim culture.
If a horny Muslim guy is surrounded by babes and thinks, "She dresses like a ****, she acts like a ****, and all I have to do is say 'I love you, wanna screw?" and she says,"Sure.".....
Where is the problem?
Well, the problem is that she can later decide that she wishes she hadn't and he becomes a post facto rapist.
Tom
Or he can not understand why she said no, and subsequently force himself upon her, reasoning it is only fair because she gave him the impression she wanted to have sex, and he hasn't grown up in a society which has enabled to him to deal with these kinds of social and emotional issues.
Why do you think this might be more common amongst Muslim Swedes than Nordic Swedes?
I would guess the opposite myself.
I'm not claiming to know a lot about Sweden. But I grew up in a world where Swedish porn was top notch and Budweiser beer commercials featured the Swedish Bikini Team.
Tom
I wouldn't necessarily say it would be more common. But one could think of reasons why it might be the case, if it were found to be the case.
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And if any of them get into power and manage to enact their insane policies will it be "world spotlight material" then? The fact that they're aiming for supreme executive power in what is arguably the most influential nation on the planet currently makes it spotlight material. Their dogmatic and intolerant attitudes are a danger to us all, not just those in America. Indeed, the fact that the Christian world is shipping to the African continent both lethal homophobic bigotry from America and utterly deceitful contraception denial from Rome as it stands is most definitely worthy of being "world spotlight material".
And if you want an older example; the fact that the Pope divided the entire world between the trading empires of Spain and Portugal and told them to spread the Church's message. I often wonder how the daimyo of Japan would have reacted if they ever learned that their entire nation had been summarily gifted to the nanban sailors who arrived with gunpowder and the gospel of shame.
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Because it's baked in to Islamic culture and scripture?
That looks a bit weasely to me.
If the Swedes write vague laws, how is that the result of Islam?
Tom