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Slovakia is banning Muslim immigration.

dust1n

Zindīq
http://www.billionbibles.org/sharia/sharia-law.html

http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/muslims-try-pass-sharia-law-alabama-citizens-say-hell-watch/

http://www.rt.com/usa/263529-us-muslims-sharia-law/
The majority of the people answered that they’d rather live under strict Sharia law. Sharia law gives women virtually no rights at all, they can be married at the age of nine, and is a literal interpretation of the Quran, which governs all aspect of life.

Don't you read your own Koran?

I could post dozens of citations just from the net and you know it.

That second link is just about how Alabama passed a law forbidding Sharia, not that Alabama, and trust me I've been there, is anyway in danger of a Sharia takeover.

Interestingly enough, your third link, which is from Russia Times and probably mostly Putin propaganda anyway, says that the Muslims that wanted to live under Sharia, as it says, wanted to move back to their country, away from the US, to do so.
 

Glaurung

Denizen of Niflheim
Nevertheless, it seems nonsensical, right
Religious identity is often heavily tied into ethnic identity. My co-workers are Albanian and Albanians are usually Muslim even if their actual practice of Islam is near non-existent. It doesn't matter if you're not a believer per se. You see the same thing in Orthodox countries, you're not a "real" Russian/Greek/Romanian unless you're Orthodox, even if said Orthodoxy is purely nominal. It only seems absurd to you because you live in a time and place where religion as been largely detached from the culture, but that's not how things have historically worked.
 
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leibowde84

Veteran Member
Religious identity is often heavily tied into ethnic identity. My co-workers are Albanian and Albanians are usually Muslim even if their actual practice of Islam is near non-existent. It doesn't matter if you're not a believer per se. You see the same thing in Orthodox countries, you're not a "real" Russian/Greek/Romanian unless you're Orthodox, even if said Orthodoxy is purely nominal. It only seems absurd to you because you live in a time and place where religion as been largely detached from the culture, but that's not how things have historically worked.
I mean logically it seems absurd. Traditionally I get it, but traditions are often nonsensical, and, like this one, destructive to social cohesion.
 

Alitheia Aylso

Philosopher
Religious identity is often heavily tied into ethnic identity. My co-workers are Albanian and Albanians are usually Muslim even if their actual practice of Islam is near non-existent. It doesn't matter if you're not a believer per se. You see the same thing in Orthodox countries, you're not a "real" Russian/Greek/Romanian unless you're Orthodox, even if said Orthodoxy is purely nominal. It only seems absurd to you because you live in a time and place where religion as been largely detached from the culture, but that's not how things have historically worked.

I find this all very strange, considering most people in Europe and the Americas do not practice their ethnic religions. (The original pagan ones)
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I find this all very strange, considering most people in Europe and the Americas do not practice their ethnic religions. (The original pagan ones)
We also killed God. And of course people don't practice those ones hardly because Christianity came along and wiped a chunk of them out of existence, assimilated a chunk of them, and killed a lot of people who would convert.
Now, however, on the other hand, religion is typically exclusive to each culture, with variations among each of the smallest units varying. Christianity and Islam are different, however, in that they actively seek converts, which most religions don't. Even in Judaism we see more of an ethnic identity that is present in the religion, whereas with Christianity we see the the emergence of proselytizing in the Abrahamic religion, and then Islam came along and the same idea of actively seeking converts was continued.
 

Alitheia Aylso

Philosopher
No one should be deported unless they commit some grievous crime. That's silly.

So wanting a nation made mostly of Muslims is a serious threat but wanting a Christian theocracy is not?

PS: Statistics show from several groups (both christian, secular, and others) that the fastest growing religion worldwide is Islam. In the U.S. specifically the fastest growing groups is:

1. Religiously Unaffiliated
2. Wicca
3. Islam
4. Baha'i World Faith

the quickest declining is:

1. Catholic Christianity
2. Protestant Christianity
3. Judaism
4. Mormonism
 

Glaurung

Denizen of Niflheim
I find this all very strange, considering most people in Europe and the Americas do not practice their ethnic religions. (The original pagan ones)
Because pagan Europe is long gone.The Heathen of today has nothing whatsoever in common with the Viking of the eleventh century, and bar from a few Christian/Roman accounts we don't even know what people really believed. We can make educated guesses at best. What we call Paganism today is a modern construction.

Like it or not, you have more in common with the sixteenth century Christian than you do with the first century Druid.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
Oh so you really have no clue what you are talking about other than copy paste from anti Islamic sites that spread propaganda and false accusations. How low, you don't even have actual reference from Islamic texts to support your claims yet you go on sprouting crap about things you know jack all about.

Except one of those sources has videos showing Muslim saying this very thing. However Jeager made an assumption that a preference will lead to fundamental changes in the nation in order to make this preference into law. However for such a change in law to happen the nation will be in deep trouble already considering the checks to prevent such a change from happening. One could flip this around and post video's of Christians wanting their preference, for say same-sex marriage, to reflect laws of the land. The main issue of the video is ignored in favour of sharia fearmongering. This issue is assimilation which the a section of the US wants people to change their cultural references to be primarily American, origins are secondary to everything or are to be dropped, as a fundamental practice of gaining citizenship. There are also a number of people from both groups that prefer secular systems for the nation but their religious laws for themselves.
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
that's your opinion which i disagree .

where is respect when the poverity push millions of women work in strip clubs and bars and adultery to live in West ?

EDITED add and correct typo

the freedom of given your body for money (to enjoy the others) , that's disgusting .
What about the women who do it because they enjoy it? They exist. There's quite a few of them.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
What about women who just like to have casual sex, not for money?
do you mean free sex for all ?
that's hurt their dignity . human body not suppose for casual sex . (just like that) .

We human not suppose act like animals .
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
It's so good we have you to be the grand arbiter of morality, good & evil, right & wrong.
that's my opinion, man !!
i am not arbiter .
everyone had his opinion , depending his thought and beliefs .
 

Kirran

Premium Member
do you mean free sex for all ?
that's hurt their dignity . human body not suppose for casual sex . (just like that) .

We human not suppose act like animals .

I don't mean free sex for all. I just mean sometimes feeling a connection with someone and deciding to have sex, if both parties involved want to do so. Nobody harmed in the process.

Not something I go in for myself you understand, but I don't see how it's morally an issue. Although it is detrimental to spiritual progress within my own path, I cannot speak for others'.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
I don't mean free sex for all. I just mean sometimes feeling a connection with someone and deciding to have sex, if both parties involved want to do so. Nobody harmed in the process.

Not something I go in for myself you understand, but I don't see how it's morally an issue. Although it is detrimental to spiritual progress within my own path, I cannot speak for others'.

do you mean sex without marriage or as promise of marriage, because of love , as boyfriend and girlfriend ?
for Muslims it's forbiden .

in West they saw that it's ok .
 
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