Smoking Pot.

[Shadow Wolf]

The e-juice in electronic cigs is completely different than marijuana vaporizors. This is my major problem with those that oppose legalization. There is this irrational stigma associated with pot that only those who do not smoke and aren't around marijuana a lot hold. Compared to some other substances, like alcohol, that are legal, marijuana is pretty much harmless.

Out of everything I've smoked and vaped, cigarettes are easily the harshest. Actually once I switched fully to e-cigs I coughed up a bunch of black stuff for awhile, and it's been years since the doctors have asked anything about smoking when they hear my lungs.

 

[Mycroft]

Does something have to be "necessary" to be legal? Let's outlaw TV, movies, gum, sneakers, flip-flops, newspapers, short buildings, skirts, yoga pants, etc.

I'm not arguing the legality now. I'm arguing the necessity. What is the necessity behind getting high? There are, if one cares to ever look, far better ways of de-stressing or having fun than simply smoking drugs.

 

[freethinker44]

I'm not arguing the legality now. I'm arguing the necessity. What is the necessity behind getting high? There are, if one cares to ever look, far better ways of de-stressing or having fun than simply smoking drugs.

In that case, no it's not necessary. Nothing is.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I'm not arguing the legality now. I'm arguing the necessity. What is the necessity behind getting high? There are, if one cares to ever look, far better ways of de-stressing or having fun than simply smoking drugs.

Whose to say there is any better way of destressing or having fun? Many people think American Idol is fun, but to me even just hearing a small amount of it is painful. I think being out in the woods is fun, but a lot of people don't see how I can enjoy it as much as I do. Some people watch TV, lay in the sun, exercise, read, and some people occasionally like to use drugs. Again, you are assuming people simply cannot enjoy getting high.

 

[leibowde84]

At the risk of creating a feedback loop that destroys the universe, I ask, is being necessary, necessary?

lol. Love it.

 

[leibowde84]

I'm not arguing the legality now. I'm arguing the necessity. What is the necessity behind getting high? There are, if one cares to ever look, far better ways of de-stressing or having fun than simply smoking drugs.

Have you ever gotten high off of marijuana?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I'm not arguing the legality now. I'm arguing the necessity. What is the necessity behind getting high? There are, if one cares to ever look, far better ways of de-stressing or having fun than simply smoking drugs.

What is the necessity of going on an online forum? After all, it's very likely you have better things to be doing to use your time.

 

[philbo]

2. CBD, found only in Marijuana, has been shown to slow and even stop cancer cell-growth completely.

There's an XKCD for that: xkcd: Cells

 

[leibowde84]

There's an XKCD for that: xkcd: Cells

ok

 

[Mycroft]

Have you ever gotten high off of marijuana?

No, I have no need to. If I want to unwind I have more productive ways of doing so.

 

[leibowde84]

No, I have no need to. If I want to unwind I have more productive ways of doing so.

That's perfectly fine. But, you are making judgments about something you know nothing about ... arguing from complete ignorance. I think if you did try it, your opinion of it would change drastically. It isn't that intense, it doesn't make you lazy, it doesn't make you stupid ... these are just myths that people who have never smoked themselves (or recently) believe because of the erroneous stigma associated with marijuana.

 

[leibowde84]

No, I have no need to. If I want to unwind I have more productive ways of doing so.

I would say, though, looking down on anyone who uses the drug recreationally without having any knowledge on the subject is pretty silly.

 

[Mycroft]

I would say, though, looking down on anyone who uses the drug recreationally without having any knowledge on the subject is pretty silly.

Who said I was looking down on anyone? I don't recall diminishing anyone over their choice? I was simply suggesting that, in a progressing civilisation, we should all be looking to move beyond things like drugs.

 

[oldbadger]

That's ignoring the research. To me the simple immune system dysfunction finding should be enough. The pot-cancer link is not proven but:

• Many of the carcinogens and co-carcinogens present in tobacco smoke are also present in smoke from marijuana.
• Marijuana smoking does cause inflammation and cell damage, and it has been associated with pre-cancerous changes in lung tissue.
• Marijuana has been shown to cause immune system dysfunction, possibly predisposing individuals to cancer.

Does Smoking Marijuana Cause Lung Cancer

Headlines on some Brit Newspaper front pages yesterday declared that researchers have found that people who take vitamin tablets on a regular basis are 56% more likely to develop cancers.

Come on............. ! Stick 'em on the list!

If you try to remove everything that carries risk, legislation will be required to keep all humans from freedom of any kind. And then bedsores will finish us off.

 

[oldbadger]

I noticed this: "A biography of the Prime Minister published in 2007 also reported that Mr Cameron was almost expelled from Eton College for smoking cannabis". So Mr Cameroon is really an old hippy!

Yep. He declared it all before he was elected to leadership of the blues. I guess that he had to, or later exposure would have caused rumpus.

Without petty drug busts many cops would have a rather weak personal arrest record. By 'personal', I mean that collecting detained shoplifters etc and formally arresting them should not be counted as a 'personal' arrest.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I think drugs like pot, peyote, MDMA, mushrooms, LSD, DMT, ayahuasca, etc. should be legalized and regulated. The hard stuff like heroin, ketamine, meth, PCP, cocaine, etc. should remain illegal but users should be sent to rehab instead of prison, but drug lords and traffickers should still be punished.

 

[philbo]

Headlines on some Brit Newspaper front pages yesterday declared that researchers have found that people who take vitamin tablets on a regular basis are 56% more likely to develop cancers.

I can't stand articles based on relative risk: "56% more likely" sounds awful, but it could well be that the specific cancers they're talking about are the particularly rare ones, and 56% more likely than sod all chance is still not one worth bothering about.

..and it also doesn't mean it's causal (e.g. option for confoundiing variables: people who've been told they're susceptible to cancer are taking vitamin pills because someone on the internet said they help. They don't help, so it makes it look like loads of the people taking those pills get cancer). Of course, when the research paper is finally published, it'll include all the possible confounders (if it's done properly), but those bits never make the front pages.. all that does is "X gives you cancer!"

 

[sun rise]

The thread is about smoking pot not other means of ingesting it. But since the subject came up eating it can be hazardous as well:

“The most common presenting symptom to the ER are anxiety and panic attacks, and acute psychotic episodes – confusion, disorientation, delusions, hallucinations, depersonalization [feeling as if you’re observing yourself from the outside],” says Franson. “Physically, people have tachycardia, impaired motor ability, ataxia. The time of onset can be 30 minutes to 3 hours and last from 3 to 10 hours.” Is Eating Marijuana Really Riskier Than Smoking It?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

According to some people, if you play Queen's "Another One Bites the Dust" backwards, Freddy is actually saying "it's fun to smoke marijuana."

 

[freethinker44]

According to some people, if you play Queen's "Another One Bites the Dust" backwards, Freddy is actually saying "it's fun to smoke marijuana."

Yup, and look what happened to him. Marijuana made him gay and he got the HIV.