Soapy
Son of his Father: The Heir and Prince
The pure and simple reason why christians are still arguing after 2000 years is due to the wrongful belief in trinity, and the likes, plus misrepresentations of who Christ is from both the Mormon and JW camps (I don’t know the titles of any other ‘group types’)
I call myself a Christian because I believe that I am following the belief that:
- “There is only one true God: the Father: YHWH’
- ‘There is only one Lord: Jesus Christ’
- ‘Those desiring Eternal Life in the new kingdoms to come must believe [1. and 2. above] and that the Father sent Jesus Christ to witness to this revelation.
- “The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John,”
- “Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.”
- “For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them. They knew with certainty that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me.”
Jesus faithfully and completely deliver the testimony to the disciples and declared this aspect of his work was done.
This observation is irrefutable and undeniable by anyone who reads the scriptures. It does not require a belief in God or Christ to see this. I can believe that Frodo Baggins managed to dispose of “The One Ring” in the volcanic fire as was set out to him at the first committee meeting of ‘The Nine’ (though it was actually Gollum who fell in the fire clutching the One Ring!!) BUT it doesn’t mean I believe MIDDLE EARTH is real...
However, since I believe that YHWH sent Jesus with the testimony and that Jesus delivered the said testimony, and that I do believe that YHWH and Jesus Christ are real, then my belief is true.
What the problem is, is that others also call themselves ‘Christians’ but profess a DIFFERENT CHRIST JESUS!!!
These, I’m just talk about trinity-believing people, propose that:
- Jesus Christ was actually YHWH in flesh... in human form
- YHWH gave .... YHWH... the... revelation .. about ....... himself.... WHAT????
But if that was not enough of a scriptural absurdity, they go further and claim that:
- ‘The Spirit of YHWH’ is in [their] fact, a PERSON beside YHWH, the Father, and Jesus Christ (who is also YHWH!!!)
But here now is the controversy: Because trinity belief is an absurdity, no two Trinitarians agree on the details of the absurdity...
BUT THIS IS A GREAT STRATEGY.
If anyone - when anyone - disputes with a trinitarian and outlines the absurdity of the trinity, the trinitarian simply DENIES that specific absurdity and claims it is not their belief. You will typically find that they do not express what THEIR absurdity is - simply deny the anecdotal one.
The result of this strategy is that trinity belief EVOLVES and MUTATES like a virus. It’s protagonists are unstable and slippery as a wet eel. A forum is a difficult ‘box’ to try to hold a trinitarian in and close the lid on their absurdities because it is full of holes for them to slither away into as you try to pin them down to what they are actually claiming to believe.
If you check my exchanges with them you will see that they do not answer any question (per se) that I ask... even ask explicitly .. even after opening asking them to ask me... There is a simple reason why they do not do so!!!!
The previous posts asks that I should dialogue with others....
THIS IS THE DEBATE CHAMBER...
There are other chambers in the forum for DIALOGUING....!!
And what ‘dialogue’ can there be with an absurd belief... You rightly state that it is endless...!
My purpose is to express THE TRUTH concerning ALMIGHTY GOD, the Father, the One True God... and Jesus Christ, whom the Father sent.
I have written extensively concerning the truth but no one hears (reads) it. Here it is in a nutshell:
- YHWH God, a Spirit, an unconstrained entity, creates a new limited entity called, ‘Creation’ (Genesis 1) also called, ‘The world’, and ‘Earth’ (but this is far more than the planet we live on)
- He creates this world by use of HIS great almighty power and authority, we call, ‘Holy Spirit’
- YHWH creates an entity from the ’dust of the earth‘ and puts a spirit of himself (image of himself) into the lifeless entity (body) to give it life and animate it... this entity he called, ‘Man’... and gave the man a name, ‘Adam’, and puts him to be Head over creation, managing it as he sees fit for himself
- Adam is perfect in all his ways in doing what YHWH directs him to do... thus Adam is a perfect SON to his creator (‘Father’: ‘He who creates: He who give life)
- But Adam is persuaded by a malicious helper spirit (Satan) to try to live without following YHWH. This is the start of disaster for MANKIND: the Son is now imperfect, now contains sin... Eternal Death is the long term prognosis. All offsprings of Adam are subject to this eternal death
- YHWH initially desired to destroy his creation after witnessing an increase in lawlessness among the offspring of Adam. But he repents when he finds one righteous man, Noah.
- God proposes that mankind can save itself if a man of sinless character can be found who will be sacrificed for the sin of Adam. In case anyone is wondering, the event is encapsulated in the killing of an unblemished lamb each year by the Jews in a ceremony of ‘the sacrificial lamb’
- But God knows this might not happen so he put in place a contingency plan that a SECOND ADAM would come about and fulfil the prophecy in 7. Of course, if a sinless man could be found in 7. then he would be that SECOND ADAM. In fact, since it takes only one sinless Adam, this Adam would also be the LAST ADAM
- God gave time for the prophecy to be fulfilled in 7. But no sinless man was found - David... King David, came nearest and so, before David sinned by taking another man’s wife and killing that man, Uriah, God established his throne to be an everlasting throne
- Finally, God brought about his contingency plan. Sin, spiritually, comes through the seed of the man, therefore Yhwh took the ‘dust’ of the seed of a virgin woman and overshadowed it with his Holy Spirit, thus giving it life: a sinless holy and righteousness child born in the same manner of the first Adam and given the name Jesus Christ
- Be aware that ‘Jesus’ is not the true name. The true name is ‘Joshua’ but over time and due to popular usage the name changed to ‘Jesus’... Both ‘Jesus’ and ‘Joshua’ mean, ‘He who saves his people’... (know your scriptures!!)
- Jesus did no miracles but learnt from his spiritual Father: YHWH, until his time came. He was baptised in water by John the Baptist but then was baptised by the Holy Spirit of YHWH. Thus fulfilled the prophecy concerning ”he who comes by water and spirit”
- The baptising, the ANOINTING, of Jesus by the Holy Spirit gave Jesus the power to carry out acts of miracles in the name of YHWH. Note that Jesus only ever carried out miracles AFTER praying to YHWH and in any case, stated that what he did was by his spiritual fathers desire - not his own. The power and authority was from YHWH, not himself!!
- Finally, prophecy declared that he should die to pay for the sin of Adam: one man brought death into the world and another removes.
- Jesus is crucified and the heavens are in turmoil - Jesus dies : “‘It is over, into thy hands, o Father, I commend my spirit’, and he breathed his last’
- Three days later YHWH raises Jesus from the dead and established him in heaven at his side. Certainly if Jesus were God he wouldn’t be at YHWH’s side because he WOULD BE YHWH... also, if Jesus is God, and at God’s right hand side, then there would be two gods ...and note that there was no third person (kick in the teeth to trinity doctrine.)
- Jesus is GIVEN power and authority BY YHWH GOD to reign for a thousand years to set the world to rights. After this period of time he HANDS BACK the power and authority to GOD WHO GAVE IT TO HIM. How can Jesus be God if he has no power and authority?
- Finally, Jesus JUDGES the people of humanity and also demon angels and GIVES LIFE TO those of humanity he deems worthy of such... “Give life to“ is [one of] the meanings of “FATHER”. The life Jesus gives at this time is an EVERLASTING LIFE, therefore he fulfils the prophecy of Isaiah: ‘Everlasting Father’!!
- And to end it all, YHWH establishes Jesus as the king over the world he created in 1. above. Jesus becomes ‘Firstborn over Creation’ (’Firstborn’, means, ‘the most beloved of the Father’. It does not mean Jesus was the First BORN of humanity!!)
- Jesus rules as ‘God’ to humanity. YHWH thus gives him ‘The Name That Is Above All Names: YHWH’. Note that they are not the SAME YHWH but that the name means, ‘He who changes not’... and so Jesus will, like his spirit Father, forever never change. Whatever he proposes will be so within creation. Almighty God, the Father will still rule over the heavenly realm - a greater kingdom than anything the created kingdom could ever be... EQUALITY? What equality??
