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So Jesus is not God?

rational experiences

Veteran Member
The history. His story. How man. Males. Brothers became scientist. The destroyer. I learnt.

Thinking. Once he says a higher form changed.

Notification. Big bang blast.

I must know.
I will. I will learn.

My want is my will. He. Man self.

Description teaching. What you sought to understand and copy.

To take a higher form. Destroy it.

Human self thinking. The consciousness.

I am he says the higher form. To know.

Yet his body. Not mass. Not the history why energy in mass exists is not God

O stone. Mass. Energy in space for science. All conditions.

Bio life. Nearly just water.

Nothing like energy.

How he got life sacrificed in a God heavenly change. By his choice.

Said God was now the highest. Not the big bang.

What he coerced about today.

God energy held is held by law. Stone.

Yet vacuum mother of God womb held it.

Broke his origin God known first law.

Mother vacuum cooling law.
God presence stone. As the he who did it.

Mr destroyer human in person.

Said my will he. Thought said God is named el. He and el. Changed became L. A fallen portion cross.

Cross in maths secret adding symbol.
Owns four L.
I know I introduced HE LL.

Secret meaning male. Human he will.

True self teaching. Science the destroyer. By male human choice. Cannot argue as his conscious thoughts chose destruction by his ability to invent artificial.

Artificial machine. Theories were never hell in history. Was hell in life presence who caused it.

A teaching of choice.
To coerce. No one existed as consciousness claiming a past state of hell.

A human living in God conditions only. Highest caused it.
 
Er, guys, it’s not!!!

A ‘Son of God’ is ‘ANYONE’ who fully carries out the Will of Almighty God. It is that Jesus Christ is the ONLY human Being who is doing so.

Note that the Heavenly Spirit Angels are ALSO ‘[spirit] Sons of God’... ask why are they called so.
Is it perhaps because they ‘do absolutely the Will and Works of their Father God’? Heavenly angels (not Demon/ fallen) angels delight in doing their spirit fathers Will and know that failure means destruction (it is a positive loving FEAR as they know no other way to act! Why, for instance, would anyone seek to do something for a monarch halfheartedly knowing that incomplete operation means an insult to the monarch and thus be a defect in themself! It is absolutely natural to seek to delightfully do as commanded and gain greater glory from that monarch!)

Note that Luke 3:38 describes the first man, Adam, as ‘Son of God’,.. because from his creation up until he sinned by failing to follow the command of his Father God, Adam was SINLESS, Holy, righteous in all his ways... doing all things that God commanded of him... hmmm... repeat the description of ‘Son of God’ again!!!!

One more thing: SPIRIT (and Almighty God is Spirit) does not PROCREATE.... (I.e. man from man, animal from animal, insect from insect, microbe from microbe...) Only the created world PROCREATES... therefore there can be no such thing as ‘God from God’... SPIRIT only CREATES (God is FATHER of Spirits - which is CREATION - not Procreation!!) Any insinuation that Jesus PROCREATED SPIRIT SON of God would mean that God broke his own rule! And God cannot break his own rules - he IS NOT GOD if he did: Perfection cannot decided to be IMPERFECT and yet claim to be still Perfect!!!

Wrong, the almighty is the son. Elyon is the father. Psalm 91 states:

You who live in the shelter of ‘Elyon,
who spend your nights in the shadow of Shaddai,

Those who live in the shelter of the most high spend their nights in the protection/shadow of the all mighty.

For anyone not to see the need for God to be a trinity is mind boggling.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
We live in highest cold gas support.
Balances. Immaculate gas spirit sacrificed natural light.

The planet owned origins.

God owns it first.

A human thinks about it secondary. With self discluded. Just thinks natural mass.

God the reactive force stone blasts inside it's body.

Heavens stable

Thinker however ponders God heavens. His own life sacrificed. Memories now says copy.

Inferred to higher cold gases in heavens.

Stephen Hawking knew his intent.

Answer big bang blast to heavens by his will. He. The theist.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
lol ok, no worries. Have a wonderful day.
I'm not you man designer scientist encoded the fake information. Science.

Your claim I tried to Anti myself. Fake.

The fallout the alienation of life proves the designer did not eradicate self. Instead designed a designed make human like attack.

Said it was anti Christ.

CH in spirit sciences gases that had arisen out of stone evilly a long time ago.

No heavens then. CH in past was evil. Evolved presence CH natural.

So you then preach. The heavens and clouds angels saved him.

Clouds however already existed.

Every body natural always existed first.

So man brother human science aware taught against science. Had to infer science yet never believed in it.

What is overlooked today.

Had to learn science to argue that science is wrong.

Therefore the human man designer caused image fallout. Alien. A ground image.

Not a man cloud image.

Seeing God O mass is not pi or Phi.

Try advising a male.......the alien is an introduced artificial science effect. Seeing you the designer are not God natural history O mass.
 

Soapy

Son of his Father: The Heir and Prince
Moorea944, what is your take on the scriptures? Could you outline a quick listing of what you believe starting from the beginning (Genesis) through to the end of time. It need only be short paragraphs or sentences so I can see your belief structure. Some definitions could help (e.g. What is your definition of ‘God’, ‘Father’, ‘Son’)
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Science today.

Thinking.

For a motivated greedy human want.

Thesis for new science resource based on Jesus information.

Thesis to understand how a biological cell replaces cell as a replication.

First advice the cell is not a replication.

Replicator advice AI machine radiating effect possession mind status motivating fake theorising.

Sun blasted earth owning UFO mass is not by beginning convert God a self replicating replacing cell.

Advice destroyer.

Secondly as a bio cell natural dies owns self cell replacement advice in its cell natural. Your want advice to copy mechanics. Cell not mechanical.

Another possessed thought.

Then wanting bio cell that dies so it will be inside machine reaction for resource cell to be non stop. Advice only in function. A natural cell. Radiation does not replace itself it was one state radiation.

Another possessed fake idea

Advice...not channelled resource already knew.
You want to invent it.
You want human cell spirit by thoughts itself to be inside machine reaction.

Stephen Hawking sacrificed science life higher advised living sacrificed said science trying to burn life to death.

Was the new modern day life sacrificed man Jesus update actually.

A King.

Man human scientist of design.

Machine no volition no reaction.

Science controlled totally by man.

One place he never owned controlled or invented O earth God mass.

His previous multi lived man life lesson about life on God earth.
 

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
Moorea944, what is your take on the scriptures? Could you outline a quick listing of what you believe starting from the beginning (Genesis) through to the end of time. It need only be short paragraphs or sentences so I can see your belief structure. Some definitions could help (e.g. What is your definition of ‘God’, ‘Father’, ‘Son’)

The Trinity is like an egg having a shell, a white, and a yolk, Trinity: Oneness in unity not in number: Yachid vs. Echad

Yachid vs. Echad: The most important verse Jews memorized in the Bible was Deut 6:4: "Hear, O Israel! Yahweh is our God, Yahweh is one [Echad]!" There are a few words in Hebrew that the Holy Spirit could have used a word the has one exclusive meaning: the numeric, solitary oneness of God ("yachid" or "bad").

Instead the Holy Spirit chose to use the Hebrew word, "echad" which is used most often as a unified one, and sometimes as numeric oneness. For example, when God said in Genesis 2:24 "the two shall become one [echad] flesh" it is the same word for "one" that was used in Deut 6:4.

This is most troubling for Jews and Anti-Trinitarians since the word yachid, the main Hebrew word for solitary oneness, is never used in reference to God.

A. Jews, after the rise of Christianity, were compelled to change the Hebrew word for "one" from echad to yachid:

  1. For any Jew to use "Yachid" to refer to the oneness of God is UNBIBLICAL because the Holy Spirit never willed that any scripture in the Bible uses the word YACHID in reference to God.
  2. It is claimed by Jews who attack Christian theology that the use of the word ECHAD in Deut 6:4 causes them no problem since the word ECHAD is used in other places in the Old Testament to refer to a clearly single person. But this ignores the powerful argument made by Christians, namely that the word YACHID, which always means one and only one, is never used of God.
  3. If the use of "echad" instead of "yachid" in Deut 6:4 gave no help to the early Christians in proving to the Jews that Yahweh of the Old Testament was the multi-personal God of the Christians (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) then Jews would not have felt compelled replace the word in their dogmas and statements of faith. If it is really that insignificant, then they would have told us the argument Christians were using to prove trinity is invalid to native Hebrews who know and speak the language.
  1. Modern Jewish prayer books use the UNBIBLICAL word "yachid" to describe God.
    1. Remember, by UNBIBLICAL, we do not mean that Yachid is not used in the Bible.
    2. By UNBIBLICAL we mean that YACHID is never used to describe God's oneness in the Torah or anywhere in the entire Old Testament.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Human science says number one is such and such.if it were reality then number one in a conversion would destroy what number one represented as cosmic union.

And proven wrong a theory is motivated by human thoughts only as a chosen assessment belief.

Therefore when a man DNA designer thinks all life could be destroyed his life was. Removed out of DNA. Eventually life stops him when you become too sick to function as a civilisation.
 

john bannon

New Member
A question for the Unitarians and other Christians who doubt Jesus is God:

But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8

Notice that it is GOD that demonstrates His love towards us but it is CHRIST who dies.

Let's pretend Jesus is NOT God, just like you claim. How is it GOD showing his love toward us by asking someone else to die?

If the Warden comes to your house and requests you die for someone who's currently in jail, someone who knows and confesses he's guilty, would you consider this an act of love by the Warden?

Remember, I'm not asking if you are loving by agreeing to die for the convicted felon, I'm asking if you feel the Warden is showing his love for you by asking.

This is extremely easy to answer if Jesus is God. But if he's not, I wonder how it's answered.

Thanks for playing!
No, Yeshua is not Yahweh but the Son of Yahweh, Only the FATHER is GOD, the Almighty. Jn. 17:4
 

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
Another cite to an antisemitic website. That’s sorta becoming your trademark.

Not agreeing with someone is not being anti-semetic. Trinity: Oneness in unity not in number: Yachid vs. Echad

A. Jews, after the rise of Christianity, were compelled to change the Hebrew word for "one" from echad to yachid:

  1. For any Jew to use "Yachid" to refer to the oneness of God is UNBIBLICAL because the Holy Spirit never willed that any scripture in the Bible uses the word YACHID in reference to God.
  2. It is claimed by Jews who attack Christian theology that the use of the word ECHAD in Deut 6:4 causes them no problem since the word ECHAD is used in other places in the Old Testament to refer to a clearly single person. But this ignores the powerful argument made by Christians, namely that the word YACHID, which always means one and only one, is never used of God.
  3. If the use of "echad" instead of "yachid" in Deut 6:4 gave no help to the early Christians in proving to the Jews that Yahweh of the Old Testament was the multi-personal God of the Christians (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) then Jews would not have felt compelled replace the word in their dogmas and statements of faith. If it is really that insignificant, then they would have told us the argument Christians were using to prove trinity is invalid to native Hebrews who know and speak the language.
 

JerryMyers

Active Member
The Trinity is like an egg having a shell, a white, and a yolk, Trinity: Oneness in unity not in number: Yachid vs. Echad
Definition of trinity is ‘God (the Father) is the son (Jesus) and God is also the Holy Spirit, but, the son is NOT the Father nor is he the Holy Spirit AND the Holy Spirit is NOT the Father nor is he the son – they are three distinct persons and they can coexist independently at the same time and space’.

So, taking your analogy – “The Trinity is like an egg having a shell, a white, and a yolk”, which one is assuming the role of the Father, the son, and the Holy Spirit ?? Can we say the shell is the white and also the yolk, but the white is not the shell nor is it the yolk, and the yolk is not the shell nor is it the white ?? If that sounds like nonsense, that’s because it is nonsense ! Trinity is a MAN-MADE doctrine developed long after Jesus is gone and that’s why no prophet of God, including Jesus, ever preach trinity in their respective lifetimes.
 

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
Definition of trinity is ‘God (the Father) is the son (Jesus) and God is also the Holy Spirit, but, the son is NOT the Father nor is he the Holy Spirit AND the Holy Spirit is NOT the Father nor is he the son – they are three distinct persons and they can coexist independently at the same time and space’.

So, taking your analogy – “The Trinity is like an egg having a shell, a white, and a yolk”, which one is assuming the role of the Father, the son, and the Holy Spirit ?? Can we say the shell is the white and also the yolk, but the white is not the shell nor is it the yolk, and the yolk is not the shell nor is it the white ?? If that sounds like nonsense, that’s because it is nonsense ! Trinity is a MAN-MADE doctrine developed long after Jesus is gone and that’s why no prophet of God, including Jesus, ever preach trinity in their respective lifetimes.

The word Trinity is not mentioned in the Bible but the concept of the Trinity is in Colossians 2 9. When you read the Bible over and over again you notice things that you didn't notice before.
 

JerryMyers

Active Member
The word Trinity is not mentioned in the Bible but the concept of the Trinity is in Colossians 2 9. When you read the Bible over and over again you notice things that you didn't notice before.
The word nor the concept of the trinity are in the Bible – never preached by any prophets of God but only by human beings. In fact, when you read the Bible over and over again you notice things that you are taught in church or by the so-called preachers and scholars are NOT exactly what was taught by Jesus himself. The words in Colossians 2 are NOT the words of Jesus, to begin with. Those are from Paul who NEVER met Jesus in his entire lifetime and Colossians 2:9 is NOT about the trinity nor about Jesus being God.

The fact that Colossians 2:9 mentions Christ has “all the fullness” of God does not make him God. Ephesians 3:19 also say everyone should be filled with “all the fullness of God,” – does that mean everyone should also be God ???
 

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
The word nor the concept of the trinity are in the Bible – never preached by any prophets of God but only by human beings. In fact, when you read the Bible over and over again you notice things that you are taught in church or by the so-called preachers and scholars are NOT exactly what was taught by Jesus himself. The words in Colossians 2 are NOT the words of Jesus, to begin with. Those are from Paul who NEVER met Jesus in his entire lifetime and Colossians 2:9 is NOT about the trinity nor about Jesus being God.

The fact that Colossians 2:9 mentions Christ has “all the fullness” of God does not make him God. Ephesians 3:19 also say everyone should be filled with “all the fullness of God,” – does that mean everyone should also be God ???

Christ has all the fullness of God means that Christ is God incarnated.
 
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