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So much for Bidens fist bump.

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
OPEC and Russia agree to slash oil output by 2M barrels a day

I'm sure he's happy though. He and his happy puppeteers can pitch the drive for overpriced garbage EVs to force upon people.
Putin drove up the prices didn’t he? By doing the whole invasion thing and screwing with international trade. What does that have to do to with Sleepy Joe or Dark Brandon or whatever you yanks are calling him these days.
I know the US thinks itself as the world police, but international trade can happen without your interference you know? Even happen against what you guys demand, because you’re not the centre of the universe believe it or not.
(I’m being somewhat facetious. Just saying. Biden isn’t president of the world you know?)
Bleeding Yanks!!
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Putin drove up the prices didn’t he? By doing the whole invasion thing and screwing with international trade. What does that have to do to with Sleepy Joe or Dark Brandon or whatever you yanks are calling him these days.
I know the US thinks itself as the world police, but international trade can happen without your interference you know? Even happen against what you guys demand, because you’re not the centre of the universe believe it or not.
(I’m being somewhat facetious. Just saying. Biden isn’t president of the world you know?)
The far right really never understands the damage their rhetoric causes to America itself and to how the world sees us.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
The far right really never understands the damage their rhetoric causes to America itself and to how the world sees us.
Maybe it’s because I’m not American. But I continue to be baffled by your politics in general
And indeed the need to demonise every tiny move by Biden.
I understand criticising a political leader. That should be a given. But only tabloid rags would report on Biden caring about this deal, right?
Here it wouldn’t even qualify as sensationalist news. Well, maybe during election season lol
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Maybe it’s because I’m not American. But I continue to be baffled by your politics in general
And indeed the need to demonise every tiny move by Biden.
I understand criticising a political leader. That should be a given. But only tabloid rags would report on Biden caring about this deal, right?
Here it wouldn’t even qualify as sensationalist news. Well, maybe during election season lol
Could it be because the Republican party has no real politics to offer, so they can only trow dirt at others to gain popularity?

Thats a question...not a critique
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Could it be because the Republican party has no real politics to offer, so they can only trow dirt at others to gain popularity?

Thats a question...not a critique
The Pubs do indeed have "real politics to offer".
("Real" doesn't mean rational or moral though.)
But both sides get high on insulting the other,
even when they have cromulent issues to address.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Maybe it’s because I’m not American. But I continue to be baffled by your politics in general
And indeed the need to demonise every tiny move by Biden.
I understand criticising a political leader. That should be a given. But only tabloid rags would report on Biden caring about this deal, right?
Here it wouldn’t even qualify as sensationalist news. Well, maybe during election season lol
It's been bad since the Tea party started when Obama was president. But Trump really took it all to a new level. It's seriously like being in high school and dealing with bullies. We democrats and ethical repbulicans have to get along with the work and avoid the bullies. Of course the bullies constantly want attention and cause trouble. I suspect this all will decline if, and when, Trump in indicted, which may happen after the new year.

It's like America is a ship that has numerous leaks and trying to stay afloat. The democrats are pumping the water and trying to fix the holes, yet the MAGAs are not helping, just standing around and complaining, and some even sabotaging the repairs. Meanwhile other powers are poking more holes in the hull, and the MAGAs blame Biden for more holes.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Could it be because the Republican party has no real politics to offer, so they can only trow dirt at others to gain popularity?

Thats a question...not a critique
:shrug:
idk, maybe. Just commenting on what I’ve seen,
US republicans and maybe this is specific to MAGA types, it’s just been memes and mocking things. No policies, no real adult discourse, just temper tantrums over election fraud???
And to be fair I’ve seen the same immaturity from some lefties. Though they’re mostly zoomers so I can understand
Again I’m not American so I am probably missing a lot. I’m just speaking on what I’ve witnessed personally.
And that’s not to say that there’s not petty lefty crap happening. Because there definitely is. Lol
It’s just generally among zoomers online so I can understand the cringe lol
 

Suave

Simulated character
OPEC and Russia agree to slash oil output by 2M barrels a day

I'm sure he's happy though. He and his happy puppeteers can pitch the drive for overpriced garbage EVs to force upon people.

We are pretty much on course towards the Liberal World Order where we inflate our way out of massive debt helping fund the social wellness programs for equitable wealth distribution and sustainable renewable green energy for cessation of devasting global warming from carbon emissions.

I'd like motorists of gas guzzlers to replace their carbon polluters with environmentally friendly electric vehicles, I am considering trading in my 2020 Hyundai Ioniq E,V, for a slighty used 2020-2022 Chevy Bolt.

"The Consumer Reports team gave the fully-electric 2022 Chevrolet Bolt an overall score of 62 out of 100. It’s a reasonably-priced EV with a 200-mile range and great advanced technology features. The Bolt offers quick acceleration and agile handling."

Chevrolet Bolt - Consumer Reports

2022-Chevrolet-Bolt-EUV11-1536x922.jpg
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
OPEC and Russia agree to slash oil output by 2M barrels a day

I'm sure he's happy though. He and his happy puppeteers can pitch the drive for overpriced garbage EVs to force upon people.
This is beyond daft, as it is so obviously false. Biden's administration has lost no time in expressing its severe displeasure at OPEC's action. I heard a US ambassador on the subject on the lunchtime news today and he was very clear about that.

To imagine Biden is "happy" because it helps drive up sales of EVs (of all things:confused:) is a silly smear. We all know you have an irrational hatred of electric vehicles, but that's your personal problem. Maybe you should see someone about it.

What is happening is that MbS sees a chance to earn an extra profit and give Biden a bloody nose for accusing him of trampling on human rights. He and Putin have a shared interest in stopping the US from drawing attention to their atrocious behaviour.

I see this as a symptom of the eventual uncoupling of Western energy demand from the big fossil fuel exporters. They will want to maximise their income while they can, because they know it is coming to an end. The cosy days when Saudi Arabia was a close friend of the US, and supplied oil in exchange for weapons and favoured treatment, are almost over. MbS probably wants to go his own way in any case. He's trying hard to diversify the KSA economy away from just oil export, as are the other Gulf states.

The big take home message from both this and the Ukraine invasion is to get away from dependence on fossil fuel as fast as possible - which is a goal I see Biden is working hard towards. Of course the task is made harder by complacent morons who continue to look for any excuse for carrying on as if nothing has changed.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Asides from the atrocities of Telsa what is wrong with EVs? Too much car to handle the way their demolishing old track records?

Over here, the only thing 'wrong' with them is that our infrastructure is lagging, and they're overpriced.
Otherwise I'd be buying one (just bought an ICE car). Next purchase, maybe.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Over here, the only thing 'wrong' with them is that our infrastructure is lagging, and they're overpriced.
Otherwise I'd be buying one (just bought an ICE car). Next purchase, maybe.
That's really the only issues with them here. Other than that I'm excited because they go zoom, the possibilities for modding should eventually be greater, and even the most fuel efficient internal combustion engines cannot come anywhere close to competing with the energy efficiency of an electric car.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Which parts of your rant do you want to debate?
The price of EVs?
Biden doesn't control the price of oil.
Moreover, I don't want him to.
We're not socialist....yet.
Biden and troupe may not exactly control pricing but he and people like him can certainly influence the market via policy and mandate.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Biden and troupe may not exactly control pricing but he and people like him can certainly influence the market via policy and mandate.
I'd rather that government not meddle in pricing.
They lack skill, & they're driven by special interest
concerns, ie, pandering.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Asides from the atrocities of Telsa what is wrong with EVs? Too much car to handle the way their demolishing old track records?
Quite simple actually. Evs simply cannot compete with what we are using now.

Progressive comes with overall superiority, not underwhelming regression.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Over here, the only thing 'wrong' with them is that our infrastructure is lagging, and they're overpriced.
Otherwise I'd be buying one (just bought an ICE car). Next purchase, maybe.
Add in reliability, longevity, and range as well
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Quite simple actually. Evs simply cannot compete with what we are using now.

Progressive comes with overall superiority, not underwhelming regression.
They out compete internal combustion in nearly all areas. The main concern, range, is only a concern if you drive an inordinate amount of miles like I tend to.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
They out compete internal combustion in nearly all areas. The main concern, range, is only a concern if you drive an inordinate amount of miles like I tend to.
Yea. Try claiming that with a battery under charge and aged within 8 to 10 years.


Fossil vehicles are definitely superior.
 
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