Renji
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Okay, go ahead. Search for me in Asia.
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So we're no longer 'friends'
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Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
How could I ever forget? And I'm sure I can always count on you to remind me how old I am.Thanks. But you're my grandma remember?
Ok I searched.Okay, go ahead. Search for me in Asia.
Now what?!
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I happened to catch a facebook post from one of them the other day, a friend of mine posted something about gay rights and this guy was ranting that people need to respect his right to call gays perverts. So this guy does not seem like he's changed at all 12 years later.
That is awful. There is no perfect way to deal with that. I'll tell you what happened to me in community college when I was about 18 or so. I was a nice (though somewhat unfriendly) person but had a small world and was somewhat concerned about the encroachment of liberal views. In a prehistoric chat room I said (with only the best of intentions) what I thought was wrong with all homosexuals, and somebody replied to me that I was a bigot. I was a what? What was a bigot? It ticked me off to be called names like that! I wanted to say "I am NOT a bigot!" but I didn't know what it meant. Today I realize, yes, I was a bigot.
Renji
Well-Known Member
At least you know that you have a handsome Asian grandson as a consolation.How could I ever forget? And I'm sure I can always count on you to remind me how old I am.
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
So where does everything come from now as far as you are concerned? Luck and magic or is it just I don't know? Just interested.Yeah, this is kinda vent out thread. Earlier, I opened my facebook and I've seen my christian friends, and former churchmates unfriended me 'because I am an atheist'. One even PMed me telling me that she prays for me that I am able to get out of the 'dark room' and that I will not be consumed by my 'negative emotion'. Our head pastor even PMed me and told me "so this is the answer for the confusions that you have? Being an atheist?", as if atheism is some sort of religious movement that you get 'converted' into. This is actually a thing that the church where I am from does everytime a member 'backslides' from them, for the reason I do not know. It kinda hurt me because these people are my friends back in college and they forget all about it just because I am no longer a 'believer'. Oh well, who needs facebook anyway?
Renji
Well-Known Member
From the things taught to you starting when you were in elementary science and the things you can read through biology books and the like.
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
So ultimately then it is luck and magicFrom the things taught to you starting when you were in elementary science and the things you can read through biology books and the like.
Really curious what kind of church you were in.And yeah, earlier, the head pastor, which also used to be my 'friend' keep on sending me PM's telling me that what I did was pride and next comes destruction. We debated a bit. So yeah, already deactivated my facebook. I guess pain is part of being mature.
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
That is fairly obvious I would have thought...oil and water
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Well, you know your Grandma Katzpur will ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS be your friend, Renji! And everybody who knows you here on RF always will be, too. You will find other friends on the outside, and they will love you no matter what you do or don't believe, because of the kind of person you are.Yeah, this is kinda vent out thread. Earlier, I opened my facebook and I've seen my christian friends, and former churchmates unfriended me 'because I am an atheist'. One even PMed me telling me that she prays for me that I am able to get out of the 'dark room' and that I will not be consumed by my 'negative emotion'. Our head pastor even PMed me and told me "so this is the answer for the confusions that you have? Being an atheist?", as if atheism is some sort of religious movement that you get 'converted' into. This is actually a thing that the church where I am from does everytime a member 'backslides' from them, for the reason I do not know. It kinda hurt me because these people are my friends back in college and they forget all about it just because I am no longer a 'believer'. Oh well, who needs facebook anyway?
Timothy Bryce
Active Member
I'm gonna go ahead and repeat what others have already said for no real reason other than the fact that I went through a few major falling outs this year that I'm still kinda bitter about:
Sorry to hear it, but ultimately, you're better off without people like that in your life. There are no genuinely bad or lost people, not even crazy, lazy or spoilt people; just sick environments. Once someone suffering from a sick environment removes themself from that environment, it's like curing an illness. A change of scenery is always good.
Sorry to hear it, but ultimately, you're better off without people like that in your life. There are no genuinely bad or lost people, not even crazy, lazy or spoilt people; just sick environments. Once someone suffering from a sick environment removes themself from that environment, it's like curing an illness. A change of scenery is always good.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
They were never your friends really ?.
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I've been involved in so called Christian communities for over a decade. I never got the feeling that the vast majority of my so called Christian brothers and sisters would even give me 5 dollars if I was in trouble. I've had several friends who've been ostracized by their former church communities due to sin issues. I've always gotten the feeling that they were surprised by the reaction. I've never understood their surprise. On the other hand, in the NT church communities are called to practice discipline. I've church members rebel against God's teachings they are supposed to not be allowed in church meetings anymore. It doesn't say anywhere that they are supposed to disown them though. This goes back to what I was taught by my parents and what I learned through my life. In this life, you really only have your family and maybe one or two friends. The vast majority of your "friends" abandon you in times of trouble regardless of whether they are your spiritual brothers or sisters in God's eyes
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When I left Christianity, my Christian friends weren't so kind. Some were okay, but two flat out dumped me. Then, I returned to Christianity recently, and my atheist friends shook their heads but love me just the same, and would never dump me. But, they shake their heads every time we go out together.
For some Christians, evangelizing is the pinnacle of their faith, and when someone 'strays'...they feel it is their duty to pray for them, and lead them back to the fold, as it were. The thing is, what led me back to faith was the Holy Spirit. I want to believe that Christians mean well who do these types of things, but if you are someone's friend, you're their friend no matter what. This is an old thread, so not sure if the OP checks in now and again.
Then, I returned to Christianity recently, and my atheist friends shook their heads but love me just the same, and would never dump me. But, they shake their heads every time we go out together. For some Christians, evangelizing is the pinnacle of their faith, and when someone 'strays'...they feel it is their duty to pray for them, and lead them back to the fold, as it were. The thing is, what led me back to faith was the Holy Spirit. I want to believe that Christians mean well who do these types of things, but if you are someone's friend, you're their friend no matter what. This is an old thread, so not sure if the OP checks in now and again.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
have you done a thread to show the reason to your choice?Yeah, this is kinda vent out thread. Earlier, I opened my facebook and I've seen my christian friends, and former churchmates unfriended me 'because I am an atheist'. One even PMed me telling me that she prays for me that I am able to get out of the 'dark room' and that I will not be consumed by my 'negative emotion'. Our head pastor even PMed me and told me "so this is the answer for the confusions that you have? Being an atheist?", as if atheism is some sort of religious movement that you get 'converted' into. This is actually a thing that the church where I am from does everytime a member 'backslides' from them, for the reason I do not know. It kinda hurt me because these people are my friends back in college and they forget all about it just because I am no longer a 'believer'. Oh well, who needs facebook anyway?
just curious....