Socialism in the U.S.

[Enoch07]

No, it's not well known. That's because it's false. Che was one of the greatest men to walk this Earth.

He was a homophobic, racist, bigot, that murdered innocent people for simply disagreeing with him. It is well know fact to anyone not indoctrinated by communist lies.

 

[Fool]

Starving millions to death is not love.

Jesus fed people. So therefore he is not a communist.

Communist "re-educate" (kick their teeth in) people that disagree with them.

The worst Jesus ever did was chase a tax man with a whip, can you blame Him? So He was not a communist.

Communism is about manipulating the desperate into handing over all their rights, labor, dignity, and money for the (false) promise of security and prosperity.

Jesus gave love and only ask for love in return. He was not a communist.

obviously you don't know what christian communism and communcalism are.

read the excerpts.

jesus didn't practice capitalism, or owned any personal property other than what he wore. he even said not to gather up, or hoard, worldly, material things.


"Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal.


seriously you're going against what jesus supposedly said and yet you claimed i am against jesus? jesus didn't advocate flattery and idolatry, he said to do as i do.

 

[Enoch07]

jesus didn't practice capitalism, or owned any personal property other than what he wore. he even said not to gather up, or hoard, worldly, material things.

Well Jesus didn't need a home or possessions or to hoard worldly possessions, but then again He was not a normal man like you or I.

Humans need these things though to survive. A successful system for us to do this is Capitalism. A person invest capital, takes on debt, creates and establishes a business that creates jobs for people to work so they can earn money to buy houses/food/medicine.

So yeah if you want go try to live like Jesus. You will fail as a normal human.

 

[Fool]

Well Jesus didn't need a home or possessions or to hoard worldly possessions, but then again He was not a normal man like you or I.

Humans need these things though to survive. A successful system for us to do this is Capitalism. A person invest capital, takes on debt, creates and establishes a business that creates jobs for people to work so they can earn money to buy houses/food/medicine.

So yeah if you want go try to live like Jesus. You will fail as a normal human.

you have it backwards. jesus was normal. he proved that you could live in a society without usury; obviously you've fogotten about the money changers in the outer court.


the amish and hutterites live quite well without capitalism as their main incentive.

 

[Enoch07]

you have it backwards. jesus was normal.

Nah WE had it right the first time. Jesus lived like no other because no other is like Him. You make a good point in citing some evidence for Jesus' divinity, by trying to prove He was a commie. The truth is a double edged sword after all.

Even back then people had to work the land or learn a trade to support themselves. Some even sold themselves into slavery/indentures servitude to feed themselves. So your fairy tale communist past actually doesn't sound all that great when you take away the fantasy of it.

the amish and hutterites live quite well without capitalism as their main incentive.

You'd be wrong. The amish are quite the Capitalist matter of fact. Here is a small portion of the immense amount of products the Amish sale on the internet and farmers markets etc.

https://www.google.com/search?q=ami...TiAhUHn-AKHeL5AJ0Q1TV6BAgKEBk&biw=360&bih=572