Some California Fast Food Businesses Raising Prices

[Laniakea]

You're new here, & might not know what is standard.
When you claim something, it's best if you support
your claims. It's not the job of others to justify your
claims for you.
Posters often make erroneous claims, so it's impossible
for others to verify those. Your doing your homework
not only saves others time, but you might occasionally
even discover you're wrong.

The standard seems to be to tell someone to post their source, then claim it's not a source once it's posted. I've also been told that it's my job to look up information to back up the claims of others when I'm the one asking for their source.
The standard is a double one.

 

[Laniakea]

I don't think the corporate chains would be willing to give up their market share of such a large economy as California. As for the corporations who are not willing to pay fair wages, then good riddance!

If the employees don't feel they're being paid fairly, then why aren't they the ones saying good riddance to the corporations that employ them? Why is it always up to the employer to fund the lifestyle of the employee rather than it being the responsibility of the employee to get a job that has a pay rate that they agreed to work for?

 

[Brickjectivity]

Why are businesses permitted to do things that people on the street aren't allowed to do? I'm not allowed to sell food unless I pay for a license and have particular equipment, and I must pass inspections. Fake inspections that have little to do with reality. Restaurants barely get inspected, and its really all about paying for lots of equipment and bribing the inspector. If I try to make and sell food in public I'll be stopped by authorities, probably by police and given a ticket. I'm so dangerous! So the government subsidizes these restaurants against me.

Naturally they should pay decent wages. Treating workers well leads to good treatment of customers. That, in turn, suggests better hygiene for the food service; and minimum wage is not a bad tradeoff for being subsidized by the government.

 

[Revoltingest]

The standard seems to be to tell someone to post their source, then claim it's not a source once it's posted.

That is common, but not the standard.
Links I provide haven't been challenged
most of the time.
And when there's a paywall, I excerpt
relevant portions.

I've also been told that it's my job to look up information to back up the claims of others when I'm the one asking for their source.

They are wrong.

The standard is a double one.

Is the same posters who require support
for posts of others, but don't provide it
for their own?

 

[Kfox]

Nope.

Here's what it costs to open a McDonald's restaurant

It costs a lot of money to open a McDonald's restaurant.

www.businessinsider.com

Even since 2014, the average franchise makes around 2.7 million in profit after expenses annually. It's easily affordable as a business expense with only a modest hit to its profit.

The link you provided says the average McDonalds generates $2.7 million in SALES. Nowhere does it say how much is left for profit after paying franchise fee, paying a percentage to the Corporation, rent, materials, labor, and everything else associated with running the business.

 

[Kfox]

Why are businesses permitted to do things that people on the street aren't allowed to do? I'm not allowed to sell food unless I pay for a license and have particular equipment, and I must pass inspections. Fake inspections that have little to do with reality. Restaurants barely get inspected, and its really all about paying for lots of equipment and bribing the inspector. If I try to make and sell food in public I'll be stopped by authorities, probably by police and given a ticket. I'm so dangerous! So the government subsidizes these restaurants against me.

Naturally they should pay decent wages. Treating workers well leads to good treatment of customers. That, in turn, suggests better hygiene for the food service; and minimum wage is not a bad tradeoff for being subsidized by the government.

Are you suggesting there are Restaurants in the USA that are exempt from OSHA inspections? What evidence do you have of this?

 

[crossfire]

If the employees don't feel they're being paid fairly, then why aren't they the ones saying good riddance to the corporations that employ them? Why is it always up to the employer to fund the lifestyle of the employee rather than it being the responsibility of the employee to get a job that has a pay rate that they agreed to work for?

Why is it the responsibility of the government to subsidize corporatations via paying underpaid employees with food stamps and subsidized health insurance? Like I said, good riddance to those that won't pay a decent wage!

 

[Brickjectivity]

Are you suggesting there are Restaurants in the USA that are exempt from OSHA inspections? What evidence do you have of this?

I'm not suggesting anything except that regulations do not apply equally to all, and I have seen some nasty kitchens. I've seen how 'Inspections' work, and I don't believe they are effective. Even the written regulations are impossible for many to implement, so inspectors 'Have' to ignore them sometimes. In fact its down to whether your particular inspector is observing certain regulations for you or not. I don't have to present evidence. Its a fact that I have observed.

Tell me. What good is an inspection that you get warned about ahead of time? What good is a regulation that nobody implements? When your equipment is run down and broken, but the inspector doesn't notice year after year after year what does that tell you?

It tells me that its a bunch of paperwork designed to keep me from selling food by the road.

 

[Twilight Hue]

The link you provided says the average McDonalds generates $2.7 million in SALES. Nowhere does it say how much is left for profit after paying franchise fee, paying a percentage to the Corporation, rent, materials, labor, and everything else associated with running the business.

Everything is an excuse. Isn't it?

 

[Kfox]

Everything is an excuse. Isn't it?

Can we agree that in this case, the excuse is legitimate?

 

[Twilight Hue]

Can we agree that in this case, the excuse is legitimate?

No. Not entirely.

It might be for some small mom and pop operators who need to adapt, but certainly not for major corporations.

 

[Laniakea]

Why is it the responsibility of the government to subsidize corporatations via paying underpaid employees with food stamps and subsidized health insurance? Like I said, good riddance to those that won't pay a decent wage!

It's not.
The government doesn't need to set the bar to as low of a standard as it does for people to get those subsidies.

 

[crossfire]

It's not.
The government doesn't need to set the bar to as low of a standard as it does for people to get those subsidies.

This is why states set minimum wage laws: so the State is not stuck feeding underpaid workers--which is actually subsidizing corporations and other employers who won't pay their employees enough to eat or get health care.

 

[Laniakea]

This is why states set minimum wage laws: so the State is not stuck feeding underpaid workers--which is actually subsidizing corporations and other employers who won't pay their employees enough to eat or get health care.

Maybe the State could stop causing inflation by printing so much extra money and then spending it recklessly. Then costs wouldn't be so high, and workers could actually afford things.

 

[Revoltingest]

Why is it the responsibility of the government to subsidize corporatations via paying underpaid employees with food stamps and subsidized health insurance? Like I said, good riddance to those that won't pay a decent wage!

That's one view.
Mine is that government subsidizes workers
who aren't productive enuf to earn what
government thinks they need.

 

[crossfire]

Maybe the State could stop causing inflation by printing so much extra money and then spending it recklessly. Then costs wouldn't be so high, and workers could actually afford things.

States do not print money. It is unconstitutional for states to print money per Article I Section 10. That is solely reserved for Congress per Article I section 8. States, however, can set minimum wages for those within their domain, to avoid paying corporate welfare to underpaid employees. Congress can set a Federal minimum wage by which all states must abide. Most of the wealthier states have minimum wages far above the Federal minimum.

 

[crossfire]

That's one view.
Mine is that government subsidizes workers
who aren't productive enuf to earn what
government thinks they need.

Workers need health care to remain healthy to be productive, as they also need adequate nutrition to give them energy to be productive. It is in the state's best financial interest to have healthy and productive workers.

 

[Revoltingest]

Workers need health care to remain healthy to be productive, as they also need adequate nutrition to give them energy to be productive. It is in the state's best financial interest to have healthy and productive workers.

No argument here.
But there's more than 1 way to skin a cat.

 

[Laniakea]

States do not print money. It is unconstitutional for states to print money per Article I Section 10. That is solely reserved for Congress per Article I section 8. States, however, can set minimum wages for those within their domain, to avoid paying corporate welfare to underpaid employees. Congress can set a Federal minimum wage by which all states must abide. Most of the wealthier states have minimum wages far above the Federal minimum.

I didn't say "states". I said "The State". IOW, the federal government.

 

[crossfire]

I didn't say "states". I said "The State". IOW, the federal government.

The articles in the OP cite the increase in the wages they are expected to be as the reason behind the price increases--not inflation, and not the federal government printing money. This is happening in California, not nationwide, in reaction to California law.