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Some conservatives soil their pants over spooky Grammy performance.

exchemist

exchemist

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Aštra’el said:
I just love how so many on the Left expect me to be all outraged over this when I already listen to Slayer, Emperor, Opeth, and Perturbator.

I mean can’t an “evil far-right fascist” appreciate some awesome black/ death/ thrash and darksynth just like anybody else…?
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Nobody mentioned you. Yet for some reason you seem to think it applies to you.....................
 
Left Coast

Left Coast

This Is Water
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sun rise

sun rise

The world is on fire
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F1fan

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Wildswanderer said:
Why are they deliberately showing stuff that they know is going to be offensive to millions of people?
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Just like punk back in the 70's was offensive. Art pushes boundaries, and often is a direct push against the "giant stick up their ***" attitudes of conservative snowflakes. Art is a social response to the slow movers in society, and these examples illustrate that.

Conservatives are a party of complaint, as they complain because they have no ideas that will help advance the USA as a society or democracy. They want a rigid, soulless nation of obedient ghosts, all while claiming they are the party of freedom. Get a gun, go to church, vote republican, toe the line, and don't forget to hate somebody.
 
Saint Frankenstein

Saint Frankenstein

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Father Heathen said:
Sam Smith’s ‘Unholy’ at Grammys Inspires Satanism Panic From GOP – Rolling Stone

Megyn Kelly blasts ‘Satanic’ Sam Smith’s Grammys performance, nipple covers

Thoughts?
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I watched it, as I tend to watch all the major music award shows. It was disgusting trash, as expected. I'm saddened over what has become of Sam Smith. He didn't used to be like that. He is debasing himself before the world, and has become a bloated mess prancing around in ugly... clothes... that look like discount Halloween costumes from an adult store. He's paying the price for fame by humiliating himself, but it is his choice. It's just pathetic at this point, like Madonna's ruined face. Petras is also degrading herself, but I knew this was coming as she made the choice to work with the rapist, Dr. Luke, and made some nauseatingly pornographic EP as her foot in the door to US pop. Ugh.

The Satanism is old hat. They've been pushing that crap for years. They already did it with that other gay Christian-bashing sellout, Lil Nas X. They obviously have some sort of agenda to push, and I don't appreciate them implying that LGBT people must be Satanists, as if there's no place for us in Christianity at all. That's total nonsense, but the devil would want people to believe such things. I don't appreciate them associating LGBT people with Satan. I thought we were supposed to be beyond that.

Anyway, I much preferred seeing Taylor Swift drunk dancing like a dork all though the night. It was the best part of the show. :D
 
Shaul

Shaul

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Father Heathen said:
Sam Smith’s ‘Unholy’ at Grammys Inspires Satanism Panic From GOP – Rolling Stone

Megyn Kelly blasts ‘Satanic’ Sam Smith’s Grammys performance, nipple covers

Thoughts?
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If the "performers" themselves purposefully try to be over-the-top it is probably understandable that their detractors would be so too. So if we are going to be consistent we should criticize both or neither but not just one or the other. I watched the broadcast because someone else I was with wanted to. It was, unfortunately, everything I assumed it would be. It was stridently in-your-face and provocative in its pandering to leftist libertine bohemianism. But even worse it was boring. Being strident can be overlooked easier than being uninteresting.

There was another thing that I found disappointing, expected, but still disappointing. That was the wholesale neglect of entire genres of music. There was next to no coverage of entire genres such as Classical, Bluegrass, Tejano, a capella, New Age and world music. I understand that time would not permit covering every genre. But the show could have trimmed the long tribute to hip hop's anniversary by a minute or two and done more. Also to use time constraints as a rational, or more probably an excuse, to not cover them at all marginalizes the aficionados of these genres. I would think the Recording Academy would want to garner more support from music lovers of all persuasions. But I guess they have done their calculus that pandering to some has more upside than the neglect of some that have few alternatives. Too bad. It just makes the Grammy brand more irrelevant over time.
 
Saint Frankenstein

Saint Frankenstein

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Shaul said:
If the "performers" themselves purposefully try to be over-the-top it is probably understandable that their detractors would be so too. So if we are going to be consistent we should criticize both or neither but not just one or the other. I watched the broadcast because someone else I was with wanted to. It was, unfortunately, everything I assumed it would be. It was stridently in-your-face and provocative in its pandering to leftist libertine bohemianism. But even worse it was boring. Being strident can be overlooked easier than being uninteresting.

There was another thing that I found disappointing, expected, but still disappointing. That was the wholesale neglect of entire genres of music. There was next to no coverage of entire genres such as Classical, Bluegrass, Tejano, a capella, New Age and world music. I understand that time would not permit covering every genre. But the show could have trimmed the long tribute to hip hop's anniversary by a minute or two and done more. Also to use time constraints as a rational, or more probably an excuse, to not cover them at all marginalizes the aficionados of these genres. I would think the Recording Academy would want to garner more support from music lovers of all persuasions. But I guess they have done their calculus that pandering to some has more upside than the neglect of some that have few alternatives. Too bad. It just makes the Grammy brand more irrelevant over time.
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They don't even televise the rock Grammys. If they ignore such a huge genre as rock music, there's no hope for the others. They chose to prioritize rap, pop and EDM over everything else.
 
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Wildswanderer

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Debater Slayer said:
Much of mainstream Christian dogma is offensive (and dehumanizing) to millions of people, but freedom of speech and religion protects the right to express and support it. Should this be treated any differently?

As for why some artists show such material, I think it ranges from genuine belief in Satanism to a desire for causing intentional shock and gaining publicity. Clearly, the controversy shows that the latter is working as intended.
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Calling them artists seems rather generous.
Calling evil good and good evil is what our society has come to.
 
W

Wildswanderer

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Estro Felino said:
It's a fact that most Americans are either Christians or have a Christian background, so it's absolutely normal that that kind of entertainment will be not appreciated by many. Not to say by most.
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Which brings me right back to my question, why show stuff that they know is going to offend millions of people?
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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Estro Felino said:
Exactly... they can be Christian converts.

Utterly unjust. 37 year old women would like to date Di Caprio too...
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It's just jealousy. She would like to bang Di Caprio too, but what chance does she have against teenagers. Yes, for a GILF she is still hot, but that appears to be makeup more than anything else.
 
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