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some questions for muslims on this board

sumaidi

ashabul yamin
sometimes in a debate forum people debate just for win. its not good. i glad that i found this forum and joined in. winning debates isn't important, winning debates is nothing if finally enter hell. god is really exist, he really create heaven and hell to us. don't we think that its impossible for a ship on the ocean running well without a man control it? its not a joke, when we fail here, then god will punish us in hell forever.

this RF, i think is really good so we can share each other about our religion. i glad that i can share with people from other country. let's use this RF to find the best way in our life. we should be honest here, the information we post should be correct.

sorry if my english is not good. its not my native language..
 

beerisit

Active Member
sometimes in a debate forum people debate just for win. its not good. i glad that i found this forum and joined in. winning debates isn't important, winning debates is nothing if finally enter hell. god is really exist, he really create heaven and hell to us. don't we think that its impossible for a ship on the ocean running well without a man control it? its not a joke, when we fail here, then god will punish us in hell forever.

this RF, i think is really good so we can share each other about our religion. i glad that i can share with people from other country. let's use this RF to find the best way in our life. we should be honest here, the information we post should be correct.

sorry if my english is not good. its not my native language..
Why create HELL??????????????
 

beerisit

Active Member
to give punishment to they that oppose to the rules of god.
Are you claiming that this being is the creator of everything and he created a place called hell to punish half of one of his small creations if they didn't put their nose in the dirt exactly the right way? What punishment did he supply for all of the stars that disobeyed his orders? What is hell like for the creatures on the other billions of planets where he put them? Do you really believe that a being that is capable of creating a universe and time itself, wants you to worship him and if you don't he has eternal punishment for you? Are you serious? Have you ever thought about being god? Would you do any of that *****, I know I wouldn't. What a waste of ME.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Are you claiming that this being is the creator of everything and he created a place called hell to punish half of one of his small creations if they didn't put their nose in the dirt exactly the right way? What punishment did he supply for all of the stars that disobeyed his orders? What is hell like for the creatures on the other billions of planets where he put them? Do you really believe that a being that is capable of creating a universe and time itself, wants you to worship him and if you don't he has eternal punishment for you? Are you serious? Have you ever thought about being god? Would you do any of that *****, I know I wouldn't. What a waste of ME.

No it isnt that way,worship me or i will through you to hell :)

God created us with the free well,not like angels,they are just programmed to obey
and worship him without any choice.

God made our living for a short period of time to see who will obey him and who will refuse his orders.

Let us call it the game of life or the challenge.

Even in our normal life,if there is some bad one,then he will be punished.

imagine that you came home and you find out that a bad man attacked your house
and killed your lovely daughter,then he is in the jail and the right decision that he
should be sentenced to death.

God said that who killed one soul,to me as if he killed all the people.
so what do you think god will do with him.

When the person worship god,then it is to say,i agree and obey.
 

beerisit

Active Member
No it isnt that way,worship me or i will through you to hell :)
Well it most definitely is. Tell me if I don't worship Allah will I go to hell? If Allah doesn't send me to the hell Allah created, then who does? Don't blame me Allah gave me free will, to believe his crazy stories or not.
God created us with the free well,not like angels,they are just programmed to obey
and worship him without any choice.
And when you get to heaven will you still have free will? How can you be sinless in heaven if the reason that you are sinful in this life is because you have free will. So what you are choosing is to GIVE UP free will when you die and go to heaven. You are agreeing to be like the angels without free will. You are choosing to become a ROBOT.

God made our living for a short period of time to see who will obey him and who will refuse his orders.
Your god created a universe that took 13.5billion years just so that he could test YOU personally over a period of 80 maybe years, to see if you would put your nose in the dirt to prove that you loved this CREATOR of EVERYTHING? Are you serious?

Let us call it the game of life or the challenge.

Even in our normal life,if there is some bad one,then he will be punished.

imagine that you came home and you find out that a bad man attacked your house
and killed your lovely daughter,then he is in the jail and the right decision that he
should be sentenced to death.

God said that who killed one soul,to me as if he killed all the people.
so what do you think god will do with him.

When the person worship god,then it is to say,i agree and obey.
I'm sorry but I can't even find a reason to reply to this, it is just brainwashing and I'm sad about that. I hope, without expectation, that some of my earlier paras will help.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Well it most definitely is. Tell me if I don't worship Allah will I go to hell? If Allah doesn't send me to the hell Allah created, then who does? Don't blame me Allah gave me free will, to believe his crazy stories or not.

And when you get to heaven will you still have free will? How can you be sinless in heaven if the reason that you are sinful in this life is because you have free will. So what you are choosing is to GIVE UP free will when you die and go to heaven. You are agreeing to be like the angels without free will. You are choosing to become a ROBOT.


Your god created a universe that took 13.5billion years just so that he could test YOU personally over a period of 80 maybe years, to see if you would put your nose in the dirt to prove that you loved this CREATOR of EVERYTHING? Are you serious?


I'm sorry but I can't even find a reason to reply to this, it is just brainwashing and I'm sad about that. I hope, without expectation, that some of my earlier paras will help.

That is our believe and not brainwashing,you dont have to believe it,if you think there is no god
and you are glad to be so,so where is the problem,just look to the others who are praying
then smile and say,they are crazy,and i am smart.

know if i have a strong belief as you are that god is a waste of time,then i won't spent
one minute in the RF,and i will not care about the others even.
 

sumaidi

ashabul yamin
mankind are special in universe. we have brain with a big capacity if compare with animal's with a bigger volumes. mankind can control animals and environment even they weaker than tigers and lions. god gives facilities to mankind so they can lead the universe. one day he will ask humankind on what they use all the facilities. only mankind realize that one day will be dead. chicken don't know that one day it will killed just like "its brother of sister", that why it never run away from man.

use our brain to think, see what signs and messages sent by god. then we will understand that god really exist.
 

beerisit

Active Member
That is our believe and not brainwashing,you dont have to believe it,if you think there is no god
and you are glad to be so,so where is the problem,just look to the others who are praying
then smile and say,they are crazy,and i am smart.
Your right i don't have to believe it, but my nature makes it imperative that I question it.
know if i have a strong belief as you are that god is a waste of time,then i won't spent
one minute in the RF,and i will not care about the others even.
And there it is a very small number of humans possess the capacity to "question" you are quite obviously not one of those and that explains your acceptance of the unbelievable.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
And there it is a very small number of humans possess the capacity to "question" you are quite obviously not one of those and that explains your acceptance of the unbelievable.

But you don't need to make questions because you already found the truth,yes maybe
the others weren't as smart as you and they didn't possess the capacity to "question"
so they did accept god blindly

So you did make the questions and then you realized that god is a myth,so enjoy your
life and don't disturb yourself with questioning other beliefs,because i think it is wasting time.

That is just my opinion,you may do questioning if you are in doubt,but if you know
the truth and you know the answsers,then you don't need to make any more questions.
 

beerisit

Active Member
But you don't need to make questions because you already found the truth,yes maybe
the others weren't as smart as you and they didn't possess the capacity to "question"
so they did accept god blindly

So you did make the questions and then you realized that god is a myth,so enjoy your
life and don't disturb yourself with questioning other beliefs,because i think it is wasting time.

That is just my opinion,you may do questioning if you are in doubt,but if you know
the truth and you know the answsers,then you don't need to make any more questions.
Oh I'm sorry if my questions bamboozle you but I will continue asking them, simply for your benefit.
 

A Troubled Man

Active Member
its not a joke, when we fail here, then god will punish us in hell forever.

Then, we will all be punished and sent to hell due to the fact there will be a long string of gods all standing in line waiting to judge us, kind of a like a fraternity initiation where all the members stand in line with paddles waiting to give you a whack as you pass by each one.

"Thank you sir, may I have another!"
 

A Troubled Man

Active Member
we should be honest here, the information we post should be correct.

god gives facilities to mankind so they can lead the universe. one day he will ask humankind on what they use all the facilities. only mankind realize that one day will be dead. chicken don't know that one day it will killed just like "its brother of sister", that why it never run away from man.

use our brain to think, see what signs and messages sent by god. then we will understand that god really exist.

LOL! What's that about being honest and posting correct information?

Do you speak for chickens and know what they're "thinking", too?
 
Then, we will all be punished and sent to hell due to the fact there will be a long string of gods all standing in line waiting to judge us, kind of a like a fraternity initiation where all the members stand in line with paddles waiting to give you a whack as you pass by each one.

"Thank you sir, may I have another!"

So far I've been staying out of this debate but I've come back and all I see are the muslims avoiding the question or giving at best dodgy responses, and the atheists running circles around the muslims.

Can't say that I've had such a good laugh in months!
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
So far I've been staying out of this debate but I've come back and all I see are the muslims avoiding the question or giving at best dodgy responses, and the atheists running circles around the muslims.

Can't say that I've had such a good laugh in months!

Do you think you become a muslim by a debate or making questions.:facepalm:

No,never

Such few examples to see how they became muslims even some were consuming drugs
and enjoying their life,do you think they were debating before converting to islam :areyoucra

[youtube]ktinb6EVhkY[/youtube]
Hollywood girl converted to Islam 1/2

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Hollywood Actress Emilie Francois Convert to Islam - YouTube

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Tony Blair's sister in law converts to Islam - Schwägerin von Tony Blair konvertiert zum Islam - YouTube

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Jesus told me 2 convert 2 Islam - YouTube

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Don't Hate ISLAM (Watch this video) - YouTube

So it isnt because of debating,god bless and guide us to the straight path,the
path of his messengers moses,jesus and mohammed peace be upon them
 

F0uad

Well-Known Member
What is the topic i mean the questions of the OP has already been answered by more then 1person..
Are there any new questions?
 

F0uad

Well-Known Member
Beerisit i have seen some post of you asking the same questions over and over, please if you do not know where Muslims belief in regarding ''Purpose of life'' or other subjects post them on the Islam Dir.

Your arguments mostly exist of these questions: Why is there a hell, Why give me a free will, Why this or that. If you are a real sincere person asking these question then ask them don't use them as a argument.
 
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