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Sorry, but I have no sympathy for these guys.

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
The average salary before they sell out contributions is around 175k. I mean, I get it, you can't live in luxury but that is more than enough to live a modest life in DC.
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
The average salary before they sell out contributions is around 175k. I mean, I get it, you can't live in luxury but that is more than enough to live a modest life in DC.

Where I live 175K salary will let you live like a king.
 

Kapalika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I did the math, that's 14.5k a month... and one bedroom apartment is slightly over 2k a month (double checked). 3 beds is 2.5k a month.

Average Rent in Washington & Rent Prices by Neighborhood - RENTCafé

Average rent nationally (for their home in their home state) is about 1.2k, but let's assume it's also 2k (house payments or whatever) and say thats all like 4.5k by adding another 500 to be safe. Where is the other 10k going a month? Lets say between vehicle payments and other costs (utilities ect), its 5k. So that's 5k a month let over from basic living costs before pay from their state that the article mentions, as well as direct contributions from lobbyists.

I dunno, but I think they can at least afford to rent a modest apartment in D.C. sure on the salary alone they can't live ultra rich but so what lol. It sounds like it could be more than comfortable.

What I would really like to see, is all these people who say they have to sleep in their office give us a breakdown of every single dollar they make and spend. Then we can talk about increasing their pay, because honestly we are their employers as voters and tax payers. We would also know how valid then the complaints are.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I did the math, that's 14.5k a month... and one bedroom apartment is slightly over 2k a month (double checked). 3 beds is 2.5k a month.

Average Rent in Washington & Rent Prices by Neighborhood - RENTCafé

Average rent nationally (for their home in their home state) is about 1.2k, but let's assume it's also 2k (house payments or whatever) and say thats all like 4.5k by adding another 500 to be safe. Where is the other 10k going a month? Lets say between vehicle payments and other costs (utilities ect), its 5k. So that's 5k a month let over from basic living costs before pay from their state that the article mentions, as well as direct contributions from lobbyists.

I dunno, but I think they can at least afford to rent a modest apartment in D.C. sure on the salary alone they can't live ultra rich but so what lol. It sounds like it could be more than comfortable.

What I would really like to see, is all these people who say they have to sleep in their office give us a breakdown of every single dollar they make and spend. Then we can talk about increasing their pay, because honestly we are their employers as voters and tax payers. We would also know how valid then the complaints are.

I'm still miffed at my school teachers that told me you cant get rich in government because it's not designed to enrich people.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Apparently the pay matches the quality of work these people have been doing.

Congressmen are sleeping in their offices to save money: 'I can't afford an apartment'

I'd be more concerned about the low wage earners.

Like in San Francisco
UN expert on San Francisco homelessness: 'I couldn't help but be completely shocked'

The problem as I see it is taxes, regulation as fees instituted by the government is driving up the cost of housing. Then the governments turn around and claim they don't have enough money to support the homeless and look for more ways to bring in revenue into the state increasing the cost of housing even further out of the reach of lower wage earners.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I'd be more concerned about the low wage earners.

Like in San Francisco
UN expert on San Francisco homelessness: 'I couldn't help but be completely shocked'

The problem as I see it is taxes, regulation as fees instituted by the government is driving up the cost of housing. Then the governments turn around and claim they don't have enough money to support the homeless and look for more ways to bring in revenue into the state increasing the cost of housing even further out of the reach of lower wage earners.
That's Democrats for you.
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I'd be more concerned about the low wage earners.

Like in San Francisco
UN expert on San Francisco homelessness: 'I couldn't help but be completely shocked'

The problem as I see it is taxes, regulation as fees instituted by the government is driving up the cost of housing. Then the governments turn around and claim they don't have enough money to support the homeless and look for more ways to bring in revenue into the state increasing the cost of housing even further out of the reach of lower wage earners.

It is a vicious cycle isn't it.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The average salary before they sell out contributions is around 175k. I mean, I get it, you can't live in luxury but that is more than enough to live a modest life in DC.
Bear in mind that they typically have families & homes elsewhere to support.
Ever live in DC & environs? It's spendy spendy spendy.
But I have no sympathy because none is needed.
Their offices are roomier than Mr Van (although certainly not as well appointed).
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Bear in mind that they typically have families & homes elsewhere to support.
Ever live in DC & environs? It's spendy spendy spendy.
But I have no sympathy because none is needed.
Their offices are roomier than Mr Van (although certainly not as well appointed).

And they probably get better gas mileage...
 
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