Spawn of the Devil or New American Love Story?

[Green Gaia]

just because something appears in nature doesn't make it natural, 2 in accordance with nature; normal or to be expected.

Oh I get it now.... because something isn't normal for you or even the majority of the human population, you think it shouldn't be normal for anyone else... get over yourself.

 

[Green Gaia]

I think I do care about persecution tho' on basically an issue that if private, and between two consenting adults hurts (and there IS my bias) nobody but the people concerned. I'm actually sorry Maize left, because I would love to have a debate with her about what she thinks is the causation of her sexuality. Of course she may well of told me to '**** off' and mind my own business, as would be her right.....maybe I'll start a thread......

The causation of my sexuality? I really have no idea and it doesn't really matter much. I am who I am. If I were not agnostic, I would say God made me the way I am.

 

[Green Gaia]

This is my opinion and if you havn't figured out my reasoning behind it by not your not going to, although I hold this opinion I in now way show any hatred or similar things towards homosexuals, their lives are just as valid as anyone elses to me I do not opress their lifestyle or their opinions.

You just like to say that the way we express intimate love is unnatural. How can you expect me not to be offended by that?

Yet it seems I'm not allowed to have my own opinion, maybe I should re-asses my opinion on homosexuals, maybe they aren't as accepting and tolerant as they would have us think.

Who has told you that you cannot state your opinion? Please state it, but when others (who are gay) tell you that you're wrong about us, don't cry that we are oppressing your right to have an opinion. Don't expect me to just roll and let you call me unnatural and not have something to say about it.

 

[Nehustan]

What about it?

The question was posed, in your absence, in the discussed framework of 'natural'.

 

[Radar]

I haven't seen the movie and don't know if I will but, it is probably just a love story no matter who is loving who. I don't know how one becomes homosexual or heterosexual and I don't know if science will ever figure it out. I think it is just a case of what the individual brain finds attractive and pleasing. The same way some people are more attracted to blondes, brunettes, light skin, or dark skin. I can't tell you why I am more attracted to brown skin women than white women but I am (i'm a white guy). I think there is way to much focus on what is gay or strait. I don't believe there are more gays now than there were before, I think society is evoling to where more people can express there true feelings than before where they may have beaten, presecuted, institutionalised, or even killed for being who they are. Now this is just my opinion and you can take it or leave it.

 

[Green Gaia]

The question was posed, in your absence, in the discussed framework of 'natural'.

I see nothing unnatural about bisexuality either. It is a perfectly natural sexuality for a percentage of the human population.





But, I think we have taken Sunstone's thread way off topic, I blame myself *slaps hands* - Let's get back to the original topic of the movie, Brokeback Mountian and it's effect on society and how gays are treated. There are 1500+ other threads to discuss homosexuality.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Brokeback Mountain is a film about two Gay American cowboys who fall in love with each other. Do you think this film will have a detrimental or beneficial effect on our society? Will it help to increase tolerance of Gays, and is that a good thing? What do you think?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0388795/

I haven't seen the movie, but what I've heard about it is very good. It's a tragic love story. The writer simlpy changed the familiar motif from earlier times: the lady of the castle, being married, cannot be with her (chaste) lover.

These guys will lose "everything" if they follow their hearts, which they never followed (apparantly?) in building their families (eg, getting married and having kids). Very interesting.

Perhaps it will play a small role in increasing awareness. It is an interesting twist for people who think that homosexuality destoys families. Our current social structure does not permit homosexuals to build "traditional" families by preventing them to marry, but when they marry people of the opposite sex their family is at a constant risk of fracture because they are not following their nature.

 

[Nehustan]

The question was posed, in your absence, in the discussed framework of 'natural'.

I see nothing unnatural about bisexuality either. It is a perfectly natural sexuality for a percentage of the human population.





But, I think we have taken Sunstone's thread way off topic, I blame myself *slaps hands* - Let's get back to the original topic of the movie, Brokeback Mountian and it's effect on society and how gays are treated. There are 1500+ other threads to discuss homosexuality.

It was more asked in the context of the status of 'natural' and in direct relation to reproduction as a bisexual is inclined to sex that can lead to progeny, so I was asking as their (or part of) sex act can lead to reproduction, does this somehow make their behaviour 'more natural' It was asked contextually from within and to someone with a heterosexal 'mindset'.

As to another thread and this going off subject, that's why I started the other thread.