ecco
Veteran Member
Goodness! Are you citing geology? Really? What you wrote makes some sense except for the fact that you believe it happened in one day or one hunderd years.
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Speed of Light and the Age of the Universe
- Thread starter Wandering Monk
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Goodness! Are you citing geology? Really? What you wrote makes some sense except for the fact that you believe it happened in one day or one hunderd years.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
I wonder who you are talking about.
Not once in my entire life have I seen anyone claim that miller urey provided proof of abiogenesis
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
ecco
Veteran Member
Now, now dad, let's try to remember that science deals in evidence, not proof. Also, I have asked you for evidence, not proof, for your beliefs, and you haven't delivered.
Let's look at ages.
I have evidence from nuclear physicists and geologists. Evidence that is based on repeatable and oft-repeated experimentation.
You have opinions from Mechanical Engineer Walter Brown.
You are so blinded by your level of religious indoctrination that you can't even see how nonsensical your beliefs are.
I'm quite certain that you don't make silly judgments like that in other aspects of your life. If you are having heart problems you turn to a team of university-educated people to help you. You believe these university-educated people know what they are doing. They might even use cardiac nuclear medicine imaging to help them evaluate your condition. Cardiac nuclear medicine imaging is based on the same knowledge as the earth age testing that you dismiss.
To evaluate your heart problems, you don't turn to a cab driver who happens to be a YECreationist. But, you can't explain your hypocrisy even to yourself.
ecco
Veteran Member
That was a simple question. You couldn't answer, so you ducked and dodged again. It's really just force of habit, I guess.
ecco
Veteran Member
How am I displaying "an abysmal lack of comprehension or depth about the bible"? I'm just quoting from it. Word for word. If you think the words are abysmal, that's your problem.
I notice that you STILL did not deny that you believe in geocentricity. I will accept that as evidence that you do believe, as the Bible states, that the earth is the center of the universe and everything moves around it...
A Flat Earth Young Earth Creationist. A FEYEC!
This thread is working quite well to show that your beliefs are without any factual basis. I don't believe you have addressed any of my questions. All you can do at this point is to continue to duck and dodge.
Astrophile
Active Member
The obvious answer is, 'We don't know.'
They might conclude that scientists don't know where the first life came from.
Astrophile
Active Member
The link to the whole article is Origin of Life & Evolution in Biology Textbooks - A Critique: Mills, Gordon . I found it by googling on the title 'Origin of Life and Evolution in Biology Textbooks - A Critique'. I am not a biologist, so I don't know whether the points that the authors make are valid, but you may find the link helpful.
ecco
Veteran Member
Following on a bit...
22The hyenas will howl in their citadels,
And jackals in their pleasant palaces.
Her time is near to come,
And her days will not be prolonged.”
Book of Isaiah | Old Testament
Book of Isaiah, also spelled Isaias, one of the major prophetical writings of the Old Testament. The superscription identifies Isaiah as the son of Amoz and his book as “the vision of Isaiah . . . concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah.” According to 6:1, Isaiah received his call “in the year that King Uzziah died” (742 BC), and his latest recorded activity is dated in 701 BC.
Book of Isaiah, also spelled Isaias, one of the major prophetical writings of the Old Testament. The superscription identifies Isaiah as the son of Amoz and his book as “the vision of Isaiah . . . concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah.” According to 6:1, Isaiah received his call “in the year that King Uzziah died” (742 BC), and his latest recorded activity is dated in 701 BC.
Twenty-seven hundred years ago Isaiah wrote "Her time is near to come". 2700 years ago Isaiah prophecized the end of times is near. 2700 years later and nothing has happened.
But, once again we see God's nasty side...
17“Behold, I will stir up the Medes against them,
Who will not [g]regard silver;
And as for gold, they will not delight in it.
18Also their bows will dash the young men to pieces,
And they will have no pity on the fruit of the womb;
Their eye will not spare children.
Earlier He said...Who will not [g]regard silver;
And as for gold, they will not delight in it.
18Also their bows will dash the young men to pieces,
And they will have no pity on the fruit of the womb;
Their eye will not spare children.
20Then Noah built an altar to the LORD. And taking from every kind of clean animal and clean bird, he offered burnt offerings on the altar. 21When the LORD smelled the pleasing aroma, He said in His heart, “Never again will I curse the ground because of man, even though every inclination of his heart is evil from his youth. And never again will I destroy all living creatures as I have done.
ecco
Veteran Member
Are you expecting the End Times to come within your lifetime?
If so...
God did nothing for (almost) all of eternity.
God created everything.
2000 years laterGod created everything.
God killed (almost) all of everything
4000 years laterGod destroys everything.
It's either a case of PPP or a sign of a very childish, petulant god. Neither is good.
ecco
Veteran Member
If I understand your comment, to show context.
gnostic
The Lost One
Two things, dad.
Evolution (TOE) isn’t about origin of first life; it is about population of organisms changing genetically over time. In another word, evolution is about biodiversity.
You are still conflating Evolution with Abiogenesis.
Second, Evolution isn’t a religion.
Evolution is accepted by majority of biologists, and in Europe, American continents and Australia, many of these biologists, are theists, including Christians.
Religion isn’t just about belief in some supreme beings, it is also about worshipping these beings.
There are no such worshipping going on with Evolution.
Are saying all these Christians are worshipping Evolution too?
You do know that lying is a sin? And yet, you seemed to be compulsively lying on a regular basis.
dad
Undefeated
Exactly. The guy who also uses physics of this nature to try and explain the past. I think he did a good job of trying, but he had no more chance than you using the wrong laws in the past.
Nevertheless, he had lots of interesting ideas such as the rapid separation of continents. His reasons are probably wrong, but who knows but that his timing could be somewhat close?
Sure would go to an evo!
..who is clueless about the far past, and doesn't claim to be anything else...unlike evos.
70 million years ago? Who does science know about then who may notice??
But what if the folks on the continents did notice strange things going on? Remember, this was probably right after the tower of Babel, so who could write or even talk to other groups!!!!!!! No wonder the first writing was pictures! No wonder Egypt seemed fascinated with tombs and death! Suddenly people were dropping like flies compared to how they lived before!
Not that far on what they call Pangaea!
Now, got any tough ones? This is too easy.
dad
Undefeated
Exactly. The guy who also uses physics of this nature to try and explain the past. I think he did a good job of trying, but he had no more chance than you using the wrong laws in the past.
Nevertheless, he had lots of interesting ideas such as the rapid separation of continents. His reasons are probably wrong, but who knows but that his timing could be somewhat close?
Sure would go to an evo!
..who is clueless about the far past, and doesn't claim to be anything else...unlike evos.
70 million years ago? Who does science know about then who may notice??
But what if the folks on the continents did notice strange things going on? Remember, this was probably right after the tower of Babel, so who could write or even talk to other groups!!!!!!! No wonder the first writing was pictures! No wonder Egypt seemed fascinated with tombs and death! Suddenly people were dropping like flies compared to how they lived before!
Not that far on what they call Pangaea!
Now, got any tough ones? This is too easy.
dad
Undefeated
Exactly. Only the nature that existed when the move happened matters!
dad
Undefeated
I never said you quoted the words wrong. Apparently you don't know what you are reading.
The Almighty is moving to earth forever. That makes it the center. This universe will pass away one day..literally. So who cares what it looks like now? (as if science could see more than 5% of what is really out there anyhow!)
Surely you do not think the bible supports a flat earth!? The lengths you will go to to avoid defending your evo religious twaddle!
dad
Undefeated
Once the Rapture happens all that will be left are the unsaved. And in the very end, when He separates the sheep from goats, all that will be judged are the goat nations and folks! All of them. Later still, the evil dead will arise and all of them will also be judged. You simply do not comprehend what you are reading. Maybe ask God to show you?
dad
Undefeated
Nope. More evidence you see but have no idea what you see.
dad
Undefeated
?? The universe was 6 days work. You kidding???
You learned what from that?
No. He will take over the world and destroy the enemies who fight against Him. He rules right here for 1000 years. Still nations. You just conflate time periods/meanings/context etc.
Seek help.