spin offs

[VoidoftheSun]

I haven't read all of your posts. So since you're not an atheist, let me guess.. no never mind...because if you say you believe in God (god), I'd have to ask which one?

I am not a Polytheist, so there is no such thing as "which one".

 

[YoursTrue]

I am not a Polytheist, so there is no such thing as "which one".

Yes, there is. Especially because you say you are not a polytheist. And people worship various gods. Have a good night.

 

[VoidoftheSun]

Yes, there is.

But how? if it's something you identify, then it's obviously not "God" but rather either an idol or simply just creation itself.

 

[stvdv]

There are so many spinoffs of Judaism.

Christianity was the first, changing the teaching of obedience to the law to one of belief, and making a man into God (at least the orthodox version).

Then Islam came, a spin off of a spin off.

Most recently we have Baha'i, a spin off of a spin off of a spin off.

All of them change the original message.

Why should I take all these spin offs seriously when I have the original? Which would you rather have: a copy of a Van Gogh, or the original?

If you feel that way, that you have the original, then I would be the last to suggest to you to "take all these spin offs seriously"

 

[stvdv]

There are so many spinoffs of Judaism.
Christianity was the first, changing the teaching of obedience to the law to one of belief, and making a man into God (at least the orthodox version).
Then Islam came, a spin off of a spin off.
Most recently we have Baha'i, a spin off of a spin off of a spin off.
All of them change the original message.

Why should I take all these spin offs seriously when I have the original? Which would you rather have: a copy of a Van Gogh, or the original?

It feels belittling to me ... this "spin off" + "spin off of spin off" + finally "spin off of spin off of spin off" ... of the original, being Judaism

IMHO this "belittling habit" is a spin off of the TRUTH

 

[stvdv]

Why should I take all these spin offs seriously when I have the original? Which would you rather have: a copy of a Van Gogh, or the original?

I rather have the ORIGINAL, being "God's painting", not "Van Gogh" (even though he was Dutch, like I am)

 

[stvdv]

There are so many spinoffs of Judaism.
Christianity was the first, changing the teaching of obedience to the law to one of belief, and making a man into God (at least the orthodox version).
Then Islam came, a spin off of a spin off.
Most recently we have Baha'i, a spin off of a spin off of a spin off.
All of them change the original message.

Why should I take all these spin offs seriously when I have the original?

Which degree would you rather have: elementary school or University?

 

[exchemist]

There are so many spinoffs of Judaism.

Christianity was the first, changing the teaching of obedience to the law to one of belief, and making a man into God (at least the orthodox version).

Then Islam came, a spin off of a spin off.

Most recently we have Baha'i, a spin off of a spin off of a spin off.

All of them change the original message.


Why should I take all these spin offs seriously when I have the original? Which would you rather have: a copy of a Van Gogh, or the original?

Would it be better to live in a world in which physics understood just Newtonian mechanics, or one in which quantum theory and relativity had been developed?

I say this a bit tongue-in-cheek, as I don't mean to disparage Judaism as more primitive, but just to point out that your chosen analogy is a bit tendentious.

 

[PruePhillip]

There are so many spinoffs of Judaism.

Christianity was the first, changing the teaching of obedience to the law to one of belief, and making a man into God (at least the orthodox version).

Then Islam came, a spin off of a spin off.

Most recently we have Baha'i, a spin off of a spin off of a spin off.

All of them change the original message.


Why should I take all these spin offs seriously when I have the original? Which would you rather have: a copy of a Van Gogh, or the original?

THE major "spin off" of obeying the law of Moses and Jesus' commandments is salvation.
No other spinoff was intended other than people living decent and happy lives.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

But how? if it's something you identify, then it's obviously not "God" but rather either an idol or simply just creation itself.

OTOH, you can't believe in what you can't identify.

 

[Samael_Khan]

There are so many spinoffs of Judaism.

Christianity was the first, changing the teaching of obedience to the law to one of belief, and making a man into God (at least the orthodox version).

Then Islam came, a spin off of a spin off.

Most recently we have Baha'i, a spin off of a spin off of a spin off.

All of them change the original message.


Why should I take all these spin offs seriously when I have the original? Which would you rather have: a copy of a Van Gogh, or the original?

The original message is in dispute though. A copy of a Van Gogh wouldn't have a different message from the original.

Aren't all your non-Tanakh Jewish texts a spin off of the original?

 

[lukethethird]

There are so many spinoffs of Judaism.

Christianity was the first, changing the teaching of obedience to the law to one of belief, and making a man into God (at least the orthodox version).

Then Islam came, a spin off of a spin off.

Most recently we have Baha'i, a spin off of a spin off of a spin off.

All of them change the original message.


Why should I take all these spin offs seriously when I have the original? Which would you rather have: a copy of a Van Gogh, or the original?

It has been suggested that Christianity was created to solve a problem that was created by Judaism. Due to original sin God can be harsh come judgement day, Paul had his followers believe that getting right with God's son, Jesus, will give us a pass by looking favorably in God's eyes. In this way Jesus is a redeemer of mankind and that's Christianity in a nutshell.

 

[MichaelleahciM]

There are so many spinoffs of Judaism.

Christianity was the first, changing the teaching of obedience to the law to one of belief, and making a man into God (at least the orthodox version).

Then Islam came, a spin off of a spin off.

Most recently we have Baha'i, a spin off of a spin off of a spin off.

All of them change the original message.


Why should I take all these spin offs seriously when I have the original? Which would you rather have: a copy of a Van Gogh, or the original?

I have a similar frame of mind. Each faith declared it has the direct and perfect word from God! How dare anyone have the nerve to alter the perfect word of God later on! Any accepted change would negate the original religion by default.

 

[soulsurvivor]

There are so many spinoffs of Judaism.

Christianity was the first, changing the teaching of obedience to the law to one of belief, and making a man into God (at least the orthodox version).

Then Islam came, a spin off of a spin off.

Most recently we have Baha'i, a spin off of a spin off of a spin off.

All of them change the original message.


Why should I take all these spin offs seriously when I have the original? Which would you rather have: a copy of a Van Gogh, or the original?

Christianity is not a spin off from Judaism. A lot of Christianity is nothing like Judaism. In fact, the New Testament in many ways is totally different from the Old Testament - 'turn the cheek' and 'an eye for an eye' - diametrically opposite!

 

[BilliardsBall]

There are so many spinoffs of Judaism.

Christianity was the first, changing the teaching of obedience to the law to one of belief, and making a man into God (at least the orthodox version).

Then Islam came, a spin off of a spin off.

Most recently we have Baha'i, a spin off of a spin off of a spin off.

All of them change the original message.


Why should I take all these spin offs seriously when I have the original? Which would you rather have: a copy of a Van Gogh, or the original?

Should I have the promise of a New Covenant, as Jeremiah gave, or the New Covenant itself?

Should I wonder at the Queen of Sheba's visit to hear Solomon's wisdom, when one greater than Solomon longs to speak to me?

Should I wait for David's Messiah to be born or should I acknowledge that He died and rose?

Should I say Christianity is a copy, like a forged painting, or a word that means "Follow the Jewish Messiah!"?

 

[Brickjectivity]

Why should I take all these spin offs seriously

I think that if you have taken some time to learn a little about somebody's religion and about them, then they should appreciate it. Its nice to have tourists as long as they don't start bossing you about.

when I have the original?

When religion-tourists are aggressive I admire sunrise's approach which is to say a lot of academic things that other people can't understand without cracking several books. @sun rise Its like humid heat. You find out quickly if this tourist truly is interested in staying around.

Which would you rather have: a copy of a Van Gogh, or the original?

Orthodoxy is theoretically like a melting point of gold at a particular temperature & pressure, unchanging. Its difficult to compare orthodox religion to Van Gogh. The value of Van Gogh is that he improves the state of art, but there are better painters after him.

 

[dybmh]

There are orthodox Jews, reform Jews, conservative, lubovitcher Jews. All with different ideas. So what's the original?

My vote?

Gen 9:5.

Anything that deviates from it, is a spin-off.

Another good example: The Akeda. What it really means. That's original. The rest that don't adhere to it, are spin-offs.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Why should I take all these spin offs seriously when I have the original? Which would you rather have: a copy of a Van Gogh, or the original?

You know what? You have me convinced.

In this spirit, I'm going to get rid of my modern bike - with its aluminum frame, disc brakes, and front suspension - and replace it with a 19th-century, wrought iron "boneshaker" bicycle that's barely rideable.

... because clearly, two centuries of change couldn't have produced anything positive. I'm much better to go with the original.

 

[shunyadragon]

Yes, there is. Especially because you say you are not a polytheist. And people worship various gods. Have a good night.

True people worship many different Gods and many different versions with no objective verifiable evidence to determine which is true.

 

[VoidoftheSun]

You know what? You have me convinced.

In this spirit, I'm going to get rid of my modern bike - with its aluminum frame, disc brakes, and front suspension - and replace it with a 19th-century, wrought iron "boneshaker" bicycle that's barely rideable.

... because clearly, two centuries of change couldn't have produced anything positive. I'm much better to go with the original.

Why a bike though when you could have a chariot which is way older?