St. Paul on Same Sex Marriage.

[Fallen Prophet]

Wrong, I never encouraged anyone to get married.

Oh! So you're not that Luke the Third?

My mistake.

 

[Fallen Prophet]

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: 4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ.

Ephesians 1:3–5.​

Yes, we were all in Christ during the crucifixion. Jesus gave birth to his offspring only after the crucifixion. No one was born-again until the water and the blood poured from Jesus on the cross.

Jesus is the tree of soul life. All the fruit was in him when he hung on the cross. I was in him when he hung on the cross. Paul was in him when he hung on the cross. And it's the cross that makes it possible for us to realize who our mother is. Jesus is our mother, brother, father, sister, aunt, and uncle.



John

Ok - so you don't interpret it literally - but the comment about there being no male or female in Christ - that should be interpreted literally?

Why the difference?

 

[Fallen Prophet]

Is that a footnote in the Living Bible?




John

I don't know what that is - besides your inability to admit your bias.

 

[John D. Brey]

Ok - so you don't interpret it literally - but the comment about there being no male or female in Christ - that should be interpreted literally?

Why the difference?

I think the word "literally" is problematic in this dialogue. I believe I was literally, in Christ, when he hung on the cross. And I believe I am literally born-again with him as my progenitor. I believe it's literally and completely true that what was reborn when I was born-again was neither male nor female, and that my male shell is not literally who I am. Who I am, in Christ, and in eternity, will be seen to be neither male nor female. Again, my male shell is less real ----literally ----than my non-gendered self as it exists in Christ.



John

 

[Fallen Prophet]

I think the word "literally" is problematic in this dialogue. I believe I was literally, in Christ, when he hung on the cross. And I believe I am literally born-again with him as my progenitor. I believe it's literally and completely true that what was reborn when I was born-again was neither male nor female, and that my male shell is not literally who I am. Who I am, in Christ, and in eternity, will be seen to be neither male nor female. Again, my male shell is less real ----literally ----than my non-gendered self as it exists in Christ.



John

Ok - then you also believe that there are no Jews or free people in Christ?

And how do you reconcile your interpretation with 1 Corinthians 11:11?